粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
任大家隨意發揮吧！ (表情33)
（出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.519 )
日期：2012/12/04 00:56
留言者：Kc

(微笑) 又迫近萬二關口！

萬二分感激！

而家想搵新一代觀眾入塲睇戲，一定要在劇本，燈光，服飾，噱頭，又唱又跳！

否則冇觀眾，何來承傳呢？

演藝畢業，不去演，只去教，去承傳？滑稽D吧？

(表情7)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.520 )
日期：2012/12/04 02:33
留言者：tt

太傳統戲塲,適宜錄低dvd在家慢嚼保留,而家又要搭車趕地鉄回家,
不像以前太平戲院在附近,睇完慢踱回家,所以愚見,歌舞連塲,適當唱段,又能保留一d粵劇傳統,節奏明快.咁就正啦. (表情22)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.521 )
日期：2012/12/04 09:41
留言者：諾基亞

講真，依家個的粵曲舞台劇，係有燈光，服飾，又唱又跳，不過無藝術成份，則人人可為，濫則必然沒落。

要企得住腳，不能靠卓頭，實在功夫好緊要。點解四大名劇做左幾十年到依家，新馬名曲人人都話好野。原因就有藝術。

新一代的粵曲舞台劇，老士低俗不堪，實是奶奶級甚麼金曲演唱會之變種，要吸引新觀眾．猶其係年青人極難，只能吸引一般唔識野，春夢未完的師奶呀婆。若後生遙遙去做去睇，同人講：喂喂，不如去睇盛x天啦。可謂瘀到痺。但傳統粵劇，則是有高深藝術在內，難是難，去演或去欣賞還有光彩的。你幾時見有後生唱分飛萬里隔千山呢，又媚俗，又老土。但依家開始多好多後生新入行做粵劇。還是很傳統的宋江，包公，武松之類。其實好易睇，每次電視拍水滸，三國，唐宋等歷史英雄名劇，係好多後生鐘意睇。其內容還吸引他們，但梁祝，紅樓等等，只有師奶呀姐呀嬸呀婆睇…點解？老土也。

後生一輩點會睇的年過五十六十係台上發姣發凳，不如睇返黃宗澤鄧麗欣？戲曲式個種情情愛愛，已隨社會開放而沒落，拍拖談情係流行曲，電影既灑家野，它們所演繹的方式最貼近現代，就算流行曲，張國榮，梅艷芳這類豪情已歸納成老土矣，現今流行的是鄧紫棋這類輕鬆細緻。其實粵劇應該向著高尚有深度的方向去發展，如巴蕾舞，意大利歌劇等等，若能，則粵劇可入殿堂，不能則成公園師奶的玩意，其朝秦暮楚，好快玩厭。

可新為舊用，不可舊為新用，如西樂玩起：罵一聲，閻惜嬌。還是很有魅力。如用二胡琵琶彈奏：流水很清楚惜花這個責任。即聽陳奕信者必大呼下台…

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.522 )
日期：2012/12/04 09:55
留言者：辛奇士

粤剧没落，乃系不争既事实。剧本来去都系旧野多，大老倌逐步退出舞合，後生既艺术上有距离，观众亦在减少中。粤剧作为大众娱剧既历史位任务已完成，它已无力在商业化娱乐中站得住。唯今之计，就系政府出钱，搅一个有质素既粤剧团，专门研究继承保留传统艺术。其它留番畀市场去寻出路。其实政府属下的文艺传体有不少，包括中乐、管弦乐、话剧、芭蕾等等。 (沉思)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.523 )
日期：2012/12/04 10:38
留言者：Kc

(微笑) 粵劇好多傳承嘢；例如開木製門拉開橫木之類，入門例牌要跨過門檻之類，新一代如果冇觀察過舊過䢖築，都唔明解台上人物的動作！

又例如平貴回窰，多次低身入窰，著住大靠，真係幾考功夫也！

好多好多睇舊嘢；或欣賞古腔；冇人教；冇人講；連睇都唔睇得明；聽都唔識聽；

點欣賞呢？

正如整首血染的風釆，後生有新鮮感！就有小小興趣參與！

連康定情歌都殺入粵曲，又點睇呢？

綁王識嘢之人，自是話好！

但年青一代只覺又難學，又沉悶！

總之而家個個想搞番起粵曲粵劇都唔知點搞！

最妙係高考有粵曲粵劇環節，個課程寫到唔知佢地想點？

唉！冇計矣！吹下水算了吧！

承傳？

好死難之事也！ (表情19)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.524 )
日期：2012/12/04 10:48
留言者：諾基亞

辛老兄，認同閣下之言論，不過，劇本舊其實唔緊要，最緊要係多，此舊而多亦要乃精彫細硺而成者，不可濫竽充數。京劇三百幾個常演劇目，都係傳統之舊野，粵劇常演應不足卅個。而今年香港藝術節，有圑體演出羅密歐茱麗葉，亦屬古老野，但還是很受歡迎，原因係高尚、藝術。

新劇本通常都有不細緻之問題，如去年演過的「一捧雪」乃半傳統之劇，其中有些場情不夠緊湊，而仔哥書生打扮，與角式不符，吾曾有意給予意見，唯是長篇大論，不願下筆。今次重演，謂之訂本，可見有志於務精也。

希望新劇本愈改愈好

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.525 )
日期：2012/12/04 17:12
留言者：寸草心

很無奈,目前泥講,傳統既粤剧承傳有人識宝,但势單力薄,雖未断香火,却冇乜声势,未有得到重視;
文化机構主管唔係果皮;一味識撥款封住大眾把口,总之曰日有騷就有功課交!主心骨反而冇人执着!
睇吓西方傳統歌剧,舊到唔恨;一套戲做成百年,但精益求益;保存精粹,絕不眉俗.
外國高級藝朮院校也有撥款,但揸飛人係有料;亦受界內人仕及納税人監督.
此地有条件可做;唔湯唔水,唔識宝!睇落苏州过後咯! (表情25)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.526 )
日期：2012/12/04 19:32
留言者：辛奇士

保存传统艺术，政府有不可推卸的责任。粤剧已获非遗，政府应该肯畀钱。问题系政府入便无人识厘行，剩系识派钱。小弟反对粤剧保传「八和」化，因为人系有私心的。系大陆地方戏曲大部分走市场化，省市各留一两个公家剧团。特区政府已有不少艺术团，应该建一个粤剧团，专出精品同保存传统艺术，让市场去搞商业新派粤剧，善莫大焉。 (表情11) (表情6)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.527 )
日期：2012/12/04 20:46
留言者：寸草心

哩度祇可吹吹水!
策.動就要靠行內及政界合作. (表情33)
誠意最重要!米個又搞小圈子鬧剧,哭笑不得! (表情14)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.528 )
日期：2012/12/04 22:56
留言者：辛奇士

寸草心兄：

小弟一於说新凡凤系佢个专栏度提吓意见。听讲康文署有人睇有关建议。不讲白不讲，白讲也要讲。 (表情11)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.529 )
日期：2012/12/05 00:38
留言者：辛奇士

诺基亚兄：

戏曲地位，今不如昔系事实，非独粤剧。大陆定京剧为国剧，政府支持各地组织京剧团，尚算一枝独秀。其他地方曲种，比粤剧惨淡者不知凡几。在香港，粤剧欲回复昔日辉煌，乃痴人说梦。唯今之计，乃说服特区政府与民间合力，尽力抢救遗产而已。粤剧比其他表演艺术更有保育价值不在艺术高度，是其它皆舶来品，唯粤剧是土生土长的香港货。 (沉思)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.530 )
日期：2012/12/05 06:07
留言者：麥友成

時代變甚麼都會變!現在怎會有人鍾意文姬喜武!藝術咪又係錢作怪! (表情24)

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