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粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）
日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) (微笑) (微笑)通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
任大家隨意發揮吧！ (表情33) (表情33) (表情33) (表情33)
（出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1472 )
日期：2013/02/04 12:02
留言者：辛奇士

小弟上帖的补充：

所以，TL兄与小弟的讲法是否可统一为：

心中有剑(法)，手中持剑(用)，目中无剑(熟)呢？
(沉思)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1473 )
日期：2013/02/04 12:23
留言者：Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)腔！奇妙之處•••••••

一聽就知是新馬腔，舊馬腔，凡腔，風腔，蝦腔，B腔！

唱歌唱到有個人腔，真係威水之極了！

普通人唱歌，講的腔，是字與字之間的旋律！

行高腔，低腔，長腔，短腔，拋舟腔，皆旋律的變化！

而並非個人風格的所謂腔口也！

此類腔的要求，就係腔圓之謂也！

然乎？不然乎？ (沉思) (沉思) (沉思)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1474 )
日期：2013/02/04 12:30
留言者：辛奇士

Kc兄：

小弟从前认为粤曲的腔就是旋律。近年改变了看法，腔是跌宕＋旋律，以後慢慢同大家讨论。
(表情22)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1475 )
日期：2013/02/04 12:35
留言者：辛奇士

补充：

腔(狭义)：跌宕＋旋律
腔(广义)：狭义＋声情＋演绎风格
(表情33)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1476 )
日期：2013/02/04 13:09
留言者：Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)通常藝術呢尾嘢！

感覺最緊要！靈氣至緊要！

蘭亭一貼，數十個之字，無一相同！

一揮而就，聽講作者返屋企都寫唔番！

唱曲何獨不然？名腔名曲，紅線女昭君出塞！

女姐返大陸後，一樣唱唔番！

想用一成功方程式去論述”腔”此題目？

有排講咯！ (表情33) (表情33) (表情33) (表情33)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1477 )
日期：2013/02/04 15:57
留言者：辛奇士

愚见：未讲字正腔园，先讲曲味。要研究曲味呢家野，首先要确认罗古与梆簧是粤曲不可或缺，与流行歌最大不同既两要素。我地话有的人唱粤曲如唱时代曲，其实系话佢地呢两原素既匮乏。唔知大家有无同或异既睇法？唔统一睇法，氢气当氧气，就一定系晒气，始终搅到断气！



(表情11) (表情6)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1478 )
日期：2013/02/04 16:47
留言者：Kc

(微笑) (微笑) (微笑)剛剛看了南方衞視，省港精英表演

由李秋元同張寶華在高山演出的白龍關！

李秋元唱腔越來越有林家聲的影子！

另外宋洪波同李池湘演出斬經堂！

宋洪波也大有進步！ (表情33) (表情33) (表情33)

天日仲有此演唱會的下半部！

今日仲有位林前進用小小鄉音唱山伯臨終！

唱工不錯！ (表情7) (表情7) (表情7)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1479 )
日期：2013/02/04 18:11
留言者：寸草心

"融会贯通、灵活运用"到化境,出招自有法度: 心中無劍,手亦無劍! 你中有我,我中无我! 萬法歸宗! (表情6)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1480 )
日期：2013/02/04 18:21
留言者：Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)玄之又玄；眾妙之門！

當有人講到心中有山不是山！

同時又見倒山即是山！

禪機初露！

討論就到了高層次！

有幾高？

與天比高囉！ (表情23) (表情23) (表情23)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1481 )
日期：2013/02/04 19:07
留言者：辛奇士

寸草心兄：

小弟就自认永运去唔到咁高深既境界勒。话o者，有几多个红线女同新马师曾丫。有时见到的小师弟师妹(曲龄浅唔系年纪细)问的师兄师姐：点解唱黎唱去都唔到既？好多时听到的答案系：粤曲好深架，要时间浸架！讲左等如无讲，慢吓手浸错毒水搅到一身蚁！不过好多时系佢地既真心说话，因为师父都系咁讲！小弟推测原因有三种可能：一系讲果个都唔知，总之系师父教落（师父系师公教落）。一系唔系咁讲点显得师兄师姐（甚至师父）既尊严。一系知道师弟妹天赋天份唔得，用的好说话安慰。最基本既困惑原因，就系唱艺不嬲都系口传身受，缺乏权威性既记录与研究（曲书讲曲式、名腔多，少讲唱艺理论），以至百家争呜，金玉与沙石齐下。小弟无才，认为可以合力发展一套比较简易的基本方法，愿与众曲友共同探讨之，走少的弯路，本栏目功德无量。
(表情11) (表情16)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1482 )
日期：2013/02/04 19:52
留言者：寸草心

辛士兄:
照貼輪貼啫,好欣賞你"1462"陳述. (表情13)
关鍵是"消", "化".
(前階段): 不滞,不迷,不惑..........而真正能集百家所長,而能化為己用,存乎一心,劍若無劍矣! 吹水咋! (表情6)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1483 )
日期：2013/02/04 20:57
留言者：辛奇士

寸草心兄：

好多名腔都系先消化，两融今别人既好野同自己心得而成就新腔。俗语说：天下文章一大抄；名腔则系：天下唱腔消化抄。从未听过新腔系无师自通既。
(表情6) (表情7)

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