粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1700 ) 日期：2013/02/18 11:55 留言者：一家言 　　辛奇士先生说：艺术家是有退休这回事的。在下举双手赞成，已故著名编剧“三哥”（当年为靓少佳、卢启光写了不少名剧的何建青）有句名言：狐狸不知腋下臭，老倌唔认额头“巢”（起皱之谓也）。所谓的艺坛长青树，绝对是没有的，北方的著名相声表演艺术家马季，就曾对在下说过，好多年前，他在北京看年近七十的姜妙香（老名京剧男花旦，是程砚秋的弟子）演红娘，马季在台下是“捂着眼睛不敢看”，毕竟年纪摆在台上了，你再有知名度，当年再辉煌，都是过去的事了，一个有自知之明的演员和艺术家，应该明白岁月不饶人的道理。你有丰富的舞台经验，你识得嘢多，冇问题，你可以在台下教学生，就千万不要再上台“献世”了。鉴叔最后一次演《荆轲》，恰好我也在现场观看，原来三个多小时的戏压缩不到两个小时，为迁就老人家的身体，荆轲的戏是能减则减，全场戏的唱腔都唱降B调。比我三十年前在中山纪念堂看他演的同一出《荆轲》，因为当时所人对手都是省内的“钻石级”阵容，临叔演荆轲，虾哥演燕丹，林小群演太子妃，少昆仑演秦王，郎筠玉演莹姑（荆轲未婚妻），白超鸿演秦舞阳，文觉非演高渐离，李艳霜演荆母，容剑平演樊于期……尽管晚年的那次演出后，当时有关方面还颁了个什么吉尼斯纪念创造者的名衔给他，但说句实话，他的表演跟三十年前相比，真是雷公打交——争天共地！ 　　观众花钱买票进剧场听曲或看戏，是为了欣赏真正的艺术，有位大名鼎鼎的前辈就对某位老倌拍的个人作品专辑议论说，七八十岁还演个天真活泼的怡红公子，走路都呈龙钟老态了，声音就更不用说了，光是化妆就被一层屋的透明胶布贴到五官都梗嗮，我都戥他辛苦——你叫观众怎么看呢？！什么叫见好就收，就是演员和艺人要尊重艺术，尊重观众，把最好、最光彩的一面留给观众，代表个人最高水平的作品和形象留在舞台！我认识的一位前辈也说过这样的话，像女姐和大哥风、虾哥这样年过八旬的重量级的人物，如果今时今日还登台演唱，出于尊重和起码礼貌，你唱罢一曲观众可能还会给你鼓掌，但这是同情的掌声，毕竟他（她）都这把年纪了，还要上台演唱，实在很不容易了！但演员应该靠自己实打实的本事来吸引和征服观众的——这里说的本事，包括声音、形象、唱做表演。如果讨来的是同情性的掌声，那就冇好过有了！ 　　最近在北京以八十三高龄逝世的著名表演艺术家于是之，年轻时演过许多光彩照人的人物角色，晚年告别舞台的最后一次演老舍的经典话剧《茶馆》，就因为年纪大忘了一句台词，他最后谢幕时，许多观众要索取他的签名，他含着泪水一次次写下“请观众原谅！”的字样。这就叫“戏比天大”，这方不愧“人民艺术家的称号！就因为这次忘了一句台词，于是之从此便告别舞台，无论谁人邀请，也不论别人给多高的“出场费”，坚决不再登台演出。桃李不言，下自成蹊，于是之去世后，一代又一代的戏迷，许多演员和艺术家，络绎不绝到他家吊唁，有写诗的，有写文章怀念的，都在用最真诚最朴实的方式表达对这位艺术家的缅怀敬重。 　　也许你越大年纪登台的出场费越高，但绝对是演出水平会越来越差。钱这个东西，生不带来，死不带去，你又不是穷到冇饭开，何必弄到自己“衰收尾”呢！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1701 ) 日期：2013/02/18 12:17 留言者：辛奇士 Hawaiian兄： 兄言甚是！正是门内看门道、门外看热闹、门远看名气是也。点解牛奶咀阔人请老倌或名家伴唱(不算合唱因水准差太远)，一系唔卖飞(因为无人会买飞但免费既会有人捧场)；观众得半边烧鹅半边臭豆付而阔人则得了入坐率。一系搏懵卖专业价(实是友情大倾销)扯起个身份。我地在批评演出水准不济之时亦要检讨自己有无盲目追捧。我谂新凡风评曲有时严只系想端正一下风气、提升欣赏水平；而并非同任何人过不去。佢系个专栏慨叹话圈内识得人多但知己者少。食得咸鱼抵得渴，鬼叫佢周不时系度阻人温食同发美梦咩！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1702 ) 日期：2013/02/18 17:29 留言者：kc 大家且看此報導: 由藍天佑、鄭雅琪領軍之「頌先聲粵劇團」，會在高山劇場演出「林家聲戲寶專場」。 三月十五日演《無情寶劍有情天》，更邀得任冰兒擔演劇中重角嫦姐姐。 三月十六日則演《周瑜》。林家聲除了言傳身教，更把自己的戲服送贈藍天佑，藍天佑能接聲哥的武場戲，是令聲哥最為安慰的，這才是聲哥心中要找的、自己的接班人。 林家聲揾倒傳人, 本是隹事！ 三月十五日演《無情寶劍有情天》，更邀得 “任冰兒” 擔演劇中重角”嫦姐姐”。 似乎就令kc啼笑皆非矣！ 正如以上各位大哥所言, 藝術家應珍惜藝術生命, “任冰兒” 點可以做番幾十年前的”嫦姐姐” 呢？上次見佢做浣紗, 都好 “蚊” 水啦！唉！ 想人買飛捧場？唔通有人想人專誠去睇”嫦姐姐” 乎？ 咁不如主題曲《無情寶劍有情天》, 由声哥幕後代唱啦！ 夠晒綽頭啦！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1703 ) 日期：2013/02/18 16:22 留言者：戏迷 　　看了一家言和辛奇士的言论，我也觉得言之有物，切中时弊，所谓千人诺诺，不如一人愕愕，大家都昧着良心讲假话，或者碍于情面而乱捧场，粤剧和粤曲就真如周瑜在《合兵破曹》中问孔明说的所样，“先生，如此岂不是冇得医？”辛奇士先生说，他在曲坛内识人多而知己少，这有什么要紧，只要出以公心，维护心中锺爱的粤剧曲艺，尽管人海茫茫，你也一定能找到真正的知己，不是有句话说道——人生得一知己足矣，斯世当以同怀视之。莫愁前路无知己，天下谁人不识君，连唐朝的诗人都有这样的胸襟，生长在二十一世纪的现代人，有乜理由自己认“衰仔”先！ 　　物以稀为贵，世上的“知己”之所以值钱，就因为他（她）不能俯拾皆是，但毕竟是有的。人都喜欢听好话，这是人类与生俱来的劣根性，通过嬉笑怒骂的手段，引起人们对曲坛和戏行各种陋习的重视，进而分清是非曲直，有百利而无一害，这无论如何比乱喷香水和擦鞋有益于世道人心。一位名人作个这样的比喻，有时好的东西，不见得就人人都喜欢，就拿月亮来说吧，古往今来不知有多少人赞美过它，可晚上做贼的人就对它恨之入骨，因为它阻住人家揾食嘛！ 　　有网友跟帖说，目前粤剧、粤曲界存在这么多问题，有什么办法能走出生天，难矣！但千里之行，始于足下，首先自己不要随波逐流，同时要多学嘢，尽量开阔眼界，同时还要放下架子，不要人云亦云，凡事都过一下大脑，自己的“道行”提高了，别人想呃你就没有咁易了。好多人都看过《西游记》，那些吃人的妖魔鬼怪任佢变化，也只能呃到为食好色的猪八戒，呃到自以为是和妇人之仁的唐僧，什么时候逃得出马骝精的火眼金睛！ 　当大家都水平提高了，都知道乜嘢先系坚嘢，乜嘢系流嘢，那些见不得人的东西就有如老鼠过街，他们就会没有市”场，慢慢自然就会被赶尽杀绝！既然大家都喜欢粤剧粤曲，那就都拿出点诚意和责任心，“水能载舟，也能覆舟”，那就让你我他都做能“载舟的“水”，让这艘撑了很久的红船撑得更稳、更快、更远吧！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1704 ) 日期：2013/02/18 18:08 留言者：辛奇士 戏迷兄： 知己少不是说小弟，是新凡风。他在香港「粤剧曲艺月刊」有个超过十年既专栏，写曲论与曲评，有兴趣不妨购阅。若说一士谔谔，我地系呢度用笔名，应该可以更真挚、更到肉。小弟知新凡风有睇立网，希望佢会将有价值既资料与言论写入专栏来扩大影响。世上所有乌厘单刀既天敌就系舆论监督；我地应该将这妖魔既天敌养大，来还我一片乾净的粤剧曲艺天空！常言道：知易行难；但亦有知易行易的。最易的第一步莫如多参与本栏目的讨论与阅读。当点击频率迅速达到一个可观数字时它便是一股各方不可忽视的力量，足以改变一些（那怕开始是微小的）不正之风！何乐而不为？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1705 ) 日期：2013/02/18 19:36 留言者：寸草心 踏入蛇年,氣象－新! 接二連三數貼珠玉紛陳! 嘩! 讀來令曲友震撼動情: 小弟將渠等比為此曲網之"陳情表"! －家言痛陳敝端;戏迷君指出: 面对光怪陸離既戏曲圈,我等泛泛曲友应持之端正態度;最可笑可恨係千人诺诺,－窩蜂; 盲目吹捧,唔食腦衹會一齊淪落攬住死! 学戏,学曲,更要学做人才是! 有藝德之老倌才令人欽敬! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1706 ) 日期：2013/02/18 23:44 留言者：寸草心 －家言先生之 “综合救治” 講开去: 掌管文藝部門,粵劇戲曲資深業者( 演,奏,編及戲台後勤),戲曲院校,戲曲傳媒及評論界, 学戲習曲者 及 粵劇戲曲觀眾聽眾都可發揮其作用; 其中必須是火車頭,而对眾多戲曲迷/唱友而言, 戏迷兄 #1703 貼內有一針見血之清涼剂! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1707 ) 日期：2013/02/19 00:39 留言者：tt 1702 時間為何不為人停留？又無情也是事實。 當一個老去的藝人，睇的不是色，是氣派，功力，層次。聲哥在溫哥華巡迴退休演出，無情頭塲比未紅又未公佈的契女蓋鳴輝演，買飛想睇聲哥的，條氣唔順但冇符，唔知是否比機會細的還是不適合演後生韋重輝？想嗌回水。買飛時又唔講。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1708 ) 日期：2013/02/19 03:44 留言者：四姑娘 tt: 某自視過高晚年猛收徒弟的老倌，師生幾年前到溫哥華作演出，大事宣傳演唱首本，出場只是唱了頭兩句，收尾兩句，其餘的盡是那徒弟唱，盡不是味道。是比機會？有人包票順道遊，利益掛帥。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1709 ) 日期：2013/02/19 04:02 留言者：tt 回四姑娘，除了嗌回水還是回水 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1710 ) 日期：2013/02/19 08:03 留言者：Kc 早晨！早晨！ 又新的一天！又向四萬咁口進發！ 藝人表演賺錢，無可厚非！ 很多表演也很成功的！亞刨與亞嗲，難復當年，還不是非常受落？ 陳小漢亦經常有新碟及出騷！但聲音已明顕不及盛時！ 人係會老嘅！觀眾係明白嘅！ 上次聲哥同陳好逑出騷，聲哥坐輪椅演出！也很感人！ 但也見過師傅唱兩句，由徒弟收科！但不收費！同大家同樂就冇乜所謂！ 利用名氣呃人買飛！就太無良咯！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1711 ) 日期：2013/02/19 10:47 留言者：哈哈 文彩好、字字珠璣 人地都話”吾係”還可大条導理要人死刑。駡人什么腦、什么鞋、什么目、难服你、人地to to 只是两个字要人信服、互相””尊重””愛好。也不用找十个孔明呀。 心田先祖種、福地後人收???

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