粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1026 ) 日期：2013/01/07 23:31 留言者：辛奇士 Guan兄： 阁下钟意听乜腔系阁下既事，请尊重小弟及其他曲友既选择！权威既资格系要大家公认，唔系讲野霸道或者孤芳自赏就得既。小弟见识少，到而家仲未见过有边个权威人士对腔既评价可以一锤定音，而系大家信服既。除了阁下之外，根本好少人讲大陆腔，只有讲大陆声。腔每个人唔同，与声不是同一概念。 因为体弱，上海妹好早收山。与她同时既好声女花旦其实唔少；有美艳亲王李雪芳(创祭塔腔)、小曲王谭兰卿(後来太肥至转丑)、歌坛有子喉领袖张玉京等。上世纪三、四十年代系粤剧粤曲既黄金年代，靓声花旦好多，不过小弟出世迟，好多唔识。以当时薛觉先之红，大把花旦排队等佢拣，佢偏偏拣上海妹做长期拍档正印花旦，而观众、听众亦受落，的碟重好好卖添。如果话上海妹唔得，即系话果个年代既叔父、戏迷同曲迷都唔得！妹腔既传承，除郎筠玉外，小弟觉得林小群亦受其影响。对於板腔曲式上海妹亦有贡献，「反线中板」系佢创既！ 小弟除左平喉十八罗汉之外，仲有子喉十二金钗，其中就有芳艳芬、红线女同上海妹。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1027 ) 日期：2013/01/07 23:38 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 小弟明天开始出门三天，唔会带PC或I-PAG，系公事，唔系闭关或着草。请继续鼓励网友冲关。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1029 ) 日期：2013/01/08 00:35 留言者：Kc 剛剛沙大聴完歌，今晩呢班朋友，睇得出，個個都下了不少工夫！唱來也中規中矩！大部份朋友都聽完晒七支曲至走！ 嘩！辛兄出門，冇人唱雙王，變咗獨腳戱！大家要答下嗲至得！ 小弟點解讚何華棧？因佢係kc好多加國曲友的導師！而工夫也好囉！ 至於林家寶隻秋月唱得差，亦只係小弟對佢的私人愚見吧了！ 以前Kc跟陳小華學基功時，周時都見倒林家寶，相信作為藝人，冇理由介意人地的愚見也！ 用一句大陸腔打殘國內同胞，小心俾人鬧爆呀！老友！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1030 ) 日期：2013/01/08 00:43 留言者：guan K师兄， 唔系乱认，你真系呆大半个师兄来架，有机会至同你解释． 呆冇一句大陸腔就打殘國內同胞，邓志驹就唔系唱大陆腔啦．不过是有恨铁不成钢之叹啫！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1031 ) 日期：2013/01/08 10:13 留言者：Kc 呢度大家吹下水！切忌過份認真！ 似乎大陸腔曾在立網爭議過一段日子！ 記得當時kc已指出，通常在香港用大陸腔話人，多指班唔夠班的香港朋友，唱得唔好聽！ 似乎又同文革樣板戲之唱法有關！總之係唔啱香港曲友口味！ 就叫做大陸腔！ 一定唔係凡大陸人唱就叫大陸腔！ 唱得好，唱得啱聽就唔係大陸腔！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1032 ) 日期：2013/01/08 01:05 留言者：辛奇士 Guan兄： 小弟愚钝，小弟觉得与兄台最大的分别就系无话边个腔系至尊，或者强由地域分高低，因为艺术上无此逻辑，唔系体育比赛可以用公斤、分秒、尺寸、几比几来定输赢。所以死抱此观念来评唱工高低系主观的、戆居的、晒气的。新马平生自负，亦从未敢自认唱腔第一，估计祥哥知道呢回事，没有最好，只有更好，无可能定於一尊。小弟听腔纳杂，各有长短，要杂听才尽兴，才知道天外有天。兄台喜欢的豉味、芳腔与女腔，小弟亦喜欢；只是尚有其他，这又有何不可? 至於谁霸道、谁讲道理，无谓口同鼻拗，留待曲友公论罢。 兄台的帖拜读了，但是没有触动。至於它因何被删，小弟一无所知。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1033 ) 日期：2013/01/08 01:12 留言者：guan 唉，系又删，唔系又删，分明玩针对，算喇，呆收声，以后唔跟帖，金山橙，你如不介意留只猫址，呆有心情再过点另类意见过你，好吗？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1034 ) 日期：2013/01/08 11:01 留言者：Kc 有時吹水，難免過了火位！要知天外會有天！人外還可能有人！雖然謙遜向來不是kc杯茶！但做人有時也不得不順應潮流！隨俗隨眾！ 正是：有爭氣者，勿與辯也！此乃荀子勸學佳句！ 願與立網諸君共勉！查的的，的的，的的•••••• 撐！ 大家最緊要繼續••••••撐！可也！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1035 ) 日期：2013/01/08 08:46 留言者：Kc 琴晚kc在沙大聴一個什麼好友好歌獻知音之類，一班業餘朋友的騷，其中有兩對是夫妻檔！一對唱半生緣，一對唱泣血水繪園！ 兩對唱來都有板有眼！算是交倒功課了！ 此類派對，相信當事人會有多了一個生日會的感覺！是很令人開心振奮的事！ 除了演出成功感外，親朋戚友的祝賀！台前台後的禮物！都是君非魚！不知魚之樂之事！ 而Kc見很多曲友能夫妻檔，參加此類健康有益娛已娛人之事！豈有不樂見人地成功哉！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1036 ) 日期：2013/01/08 10:57 留言者：KC 今日kc老師上身, 要大家學習: 荀子, 勸學篇一段！網上同人吹水之道！ 問楛者勿告也。告楛者勿問也。說楛者勿聽也。有爭氣者勿與辯也。故必由其道至，然后接之，非其道，則避之。故禮恭而后可以言道之方﹔辭順，而后可與言道之理﹔色從，而后可以言道之致。故未可與言而言，謂之傲﹔可與言而不言，謂之隱﹔不觀氣色而言，謂之瞽。故君子不傲不隱不瞽，謹慎其身。詩曰：“匪交匪舒⑥，天子所予。”此之謂也。 ﹝今譯﹞ 　　凡有非以禮為問者，不告也。非以禮相告者，不過問也。有說非禮者，不就而聽之。有爭意氣求勝而不求益者，不與辯也。 朋友相交有道，相接有禮。故必以朋友之道來，才可與之相接。不以朋友之道來，便可避而不與相接。 故凡有問學者，禮貌謙恭，而后可與之言造道之方﹔言辭和順，而后可與之言造道之理﹔顏色表現出從善之誠意，而后可與之言道之極致。 其人未可與言而與之言，謂之躁﹔可與言而不與之言，謂之隱﹔不觀氣色而言，謂無目之瞽。 故君子不傲不隱不瞽，謹慎以修其身。詩曰：“匪交匪舒，天子所予。”不侮慢，不怠緩，斯福祿所予也。 願與諸君共吹！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1037 ) 日期：2013/01/08 11:40 留言者：Fung Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1038 ) 日期：2013/01/08 13:54 留言者：tt

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