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粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）
日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) (微笑) (微笑)通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3159 )
日期：2013/06/10 08:39
留言者：辛奇士

调寄将军令既《男儿当自强》填词人系黄老沾。佢系港大中文系毕业，亦爱粤曲，同红线女系忘年交。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3160 )
日期：2013/06/10 09:04
留言者：Hawaiian

好多後生一輩把”將軍令”首曲名稱做”男兒當自強”,一如把”妝台秋思”稱做”帝女花”一樣.


想起鍾偉明講古.

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3161 )
日期：2013/06/10 09:32
留言者：TL

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《將軍令》不是廣東音樂是傳統浙派箏曲。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3162 )
日期：2013/07/01 13:26
留言者：青玉案

辛奇士先生,

根據網絡搜索秦小梨曾經參加演出過七十多部電影. 2005年卒於三藩市. 她的父親是教師. 她後期成為虔誠基督徒. 更創作了多首福音粵曲傳道.

她和芳艷芬, 紅線女, 白雪仙並列為” 四大名旦” . 不知那三位仍在世的前輩花旦有甚麼comments? 亦不知先生你有甚麼comments? 或者她已經在你的子喉十二金釵名單內罷!

何非凡唱”風雪訪情僧”唱出了 ‘身價’, 十分動聽. 可能當時的他, 後腦是有一支左輪頂住的. 秦小梨的聲音帶點童稚, 加上健美身形, 像足個dumb blonde. 難怪那個廣州政府要員心情會變得複雜哂了!

想不到秦小梨是臘鴨唱碟的鼻祖! 後來她和任劍輝錄了一首碧容探監, 已經大有進步.

你說省內傳統粵劇的衰亡會比香港來得更快, 有甚麼拫據嗎? 照常理大陸要人才有人才, 要觀眾有觀眾, 是政治因素或是其他原因, 可以談談嗎? 難道阮德鏘, 譚穎倫,杜詠心, 李沛妍等一幫粵劇接班人可以超越大陸未來粵劇演員嗎?

風雪夜歸人雖然不是傳統粵劇, 但很好看, 也適合年青觀眾. 惟一美中不足是曉毅的花旦扮相酷似粵語殘片的任冰兒!

其實花旦鞋跟小生鞋或官靴一樣, 可以高底, 只不過是放在弓鞋裡面, 所以不能太誇張, 像一些文武生般替自已平白多潻五六吋. 假如花旦鞋是薄底, 可苦了那些要和一群五呎不到的香港花旦配戲的男角呢!

下面是幾個粵曲大全還沒有的撰曲人名字:

雪夜祭梅妃 溫誌鵬
九天玄女之投荔 唐滌生
武則天之踏雪尋梅 蔡衍棻
絕情谷底俠侶情 陳錦榮 (不是陳嘉慧)
西樓記之西樓訂盟 葉紹德
琵琶記之贈髮繫郎心 潘一帆(五字曲已安上, 尚欠這九字曲)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3163 )
日期：2013/06/10 13:26
留言者：辛奇士

青玉案小姐：

第一次听到秦小梨与芳姐、仙姐、女姐并列四大名旦。凭什么？肯定不是唱。《风雪访情僧》她只是陪衬，亦无唱工可言。此曲外未听过她唱其它曲。从来没有梨腔，想是不过尔尔。

广东省人多，算总量粤剧观众肯定超过香港，但比例不一定。粤剧在粤问题最大是投领导所好，不是观众所赏，而领导不一定懂粤剧(甚至不是广东人)。前几年开始，除广东及广州保留两至三个国营粤剧团外，其他团一律自负盈亏，市政府只予酌量补助。生计傍徨下水准自谈不上：转业、走穴、兼职、结婚、创新(搞非传统粤剧)乜都有。下乡尚勉可维持，城市演粤剧，观众只余小猫几只而已。粤剧演员、音乐员摇篮既广东粤剧学校因招生不足已改名为广东舞蹈粤剧学校；部分教师已转往香港演艺任教。演艺毕业生不少是省内受训後再带艺来港入读的：洪海、林颖施、宋洪波、蓝天佑都系。目的梗系留港发展喇！成名老倌黄伟坤、梁兆明、李秋元通过优才计划来港。王戈丹早已落地生根矣。此消彼长，形势甚明。人离乡贱，省内一级老倌反是；香港曲骚介口万万声。皆因腊鸭好卖，D阔佬阔太钟意揾名气伴唱也。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3164 )
日期：2013/06/10 15:22
留言者：kc

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Kc 從維基百科找來的資料, 大家分享下:

廣東音樂（廣東非廣府人又稱其為廣府音樂）是流行於中國廣東珠江三角洲一帶的器樂曲，音色清脆明亮，旋律流暢優美，節奏活潑歡快。廣東音樂形成於清末，很多樂曲是由戲曲過場音樂、民歌、民間器樂曲牌演變而來。廣東音樂也吸收了江南和北方音樂以及中原古樂的因素，結合本地語言的特點而產生。由於其出現較晚，許多曲目都是由音樂家創作的。

樂器組合
早期的廣東音樂以二弦（後人稱為「硬弓」形式）主奏、提琴(形制與板胡相同)、橫簫(即笛子)、月琴和三弦，這五件樂器稱為「五架頭」。1926年間，在上海長大的呂文成將滬人演奏的二胡傳入港、粵，並改用鋼絲琴弦，今人稱它為粵胡（又稱高胡），又稱為「軟弓」形式。高胡作為主奏樂器，輔以揚琴和秦琴，稱為「三件頭」 。後來樂隊在「三件頭”的基礎上擴大，加入了洞簫、笛子、椰胡等絲竹樂器。由於廣州和國外通商較早，廣東音樂受西方音樂影響，如加入梵鈴(即小提琴)、色士風、結他、小號、木片琴等等外來樂器。

著名曲目和創作者
著名的曲目有《喜洋洋》；清末嚴老烈創作的《旱天雷》、《餓馬搖鈴》、《漢宮秋月》、《雨打巴蕉》等，以及民國1920年代呂文成創作的《平湖秋月》、《步步高》、《醒獅》，以及聶耳創作的《金蛇狂舞》等。近年香港作曲家陳錦標，麥偉鑄等等也曾嘗試創作廣東音樂。
著名演奏家 [編輯]
• 呂文成（1898－1981）
• 劉天一（1910－1990）
• 甘尚時（1931－）
• 余其偉（1953－）

結構
廣東音樂的樂曲多為器樂小品，其結構短小，表現內容集中，大多數樂曲一氣呵成，但亦有在樂曲裏速度、板式（節拍）方面轉變，例如《雙聲恨》、《昭君怨》等在曲末有一段流水板曲調。

旋律風格特徵
廣東音樂常常表現出跳躍的、華彩的、活潑的旋律風格，例如：旋律線經常作上、下大幅度的跳動，演奏者在演奏時加花，使旋律富有華彩性。以西方的樂理來分折，樂句常從帶起拍開始，常常運用切分節奏，使音樂具有向前推進的動力。樂句的句幅多數短小，並且常以接二連三的排比出現。
廣東音樂列表
• 旱天雷
• 三潭印月
• 餓馬搖鈴
• 漢宮秋月
• 雨打芭蕉
• 賽龍奪錦
• 娛樂昇平
• 平湖秋月
• 醒獅
• 步步高
• 金蛇狂舞
• 禪院鐘聲
• 分飛燕
• 走馬英雄

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3165 )
日期：2013/06/10 15:58
留言者：TL

《喜洋洋》劉明源作於1958年，取材於山西民歌。
《金蛇狂舞》聶耳於1934年改編自民間樂曲《倒八板》。
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這兩首不能算是廣東音樂。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3166 )
日期：2013/06/10 18:11
留言者：寸草心

介紹下 "連環扣",卻不知是那位大師既作品!!??:
听过廣東音樂精華既CD, 演奏名家甚多,此特輯作品由廖森,吳聿光,戴信華等領奏.
"連環扣" 一曲大家都耳熟, 开头: "真係令到 令到令到我 心 慌慌!.......", 呢段粤曲常用,祇不过係引子,
但成支曲原來好長, 樂曲結構有小提琴協奏曲既風格!?, 此曲領奏高胡引領穿插游弋於其他合奏樂器間,
玩得玲瓏剔透;其中返復一段高音,快速部份令奏者得以施展渾身解數,玩出廣東高胡既優美特質,風格!......
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3167 )
日期：2013/06/10 19:44
留言者：辛奇士

严老烈。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3168 )
日期：2013/06/10 20:36
留言者：寸草心

辛百科老兄 (表情33)........可否舉例嚴前輩其他名曲!? (表情7)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3169 )
日期：2013/06/10 21:54
留言者：路過

嚴老烈其他作品還有旱天雷,倒垂簾。

全首連環扣很多人已背不到，很易困雞籠。 (大笑)

三潭印月和漢宮秋月其實是同一首音樂，三十年代初新月唱片入碟時，稱為三潭印月，後來在歌林唱片灌錄，改稱漢宮秋月。

分飛燕其實為楊翠喜。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3170 )
日期：2013/06/11 00:42
留言者：辛奇士

梁以忠作既春风得意、落花时节、凤笙怨都系好野。当然唔能够漏左王粤生既银塘吐艳(荷花香)喇！坚野仲有易剑泉既鸟投林、吕文成既蕉石鸣琴、渔歌晚唱、剪春罗；陈文达既惊涛、归时；何大傻既孔雀开屏、花间蝶、柳底莺；王粤生既红烛泪、丝丝泪、雪底游魂、邵铁鸿既锦城春、流水行云；陈德钜既宝鸭穿莲、春郊试马；朱绍良既龙飞凤舞等等，数到天光都数唔完。陈冠卿系少有既全才。梵天曲、山河泪都系佢既作品，应该唔止。前人文、乐皆精。唔知曲作得好，连个曲名都宁舍有意境。点到你唔服？

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