粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2132 ) 日期：2013/03/28 17:08 留言者：諾基亞 若謂老人唱陳小漢曲易，某卻認為不及羅家寶之曲貼切。 先不論羅陳二人之唱腔誰優劣，但羅家寶之曲，始終平實規距，沒有甚麼功力的人，唸口簧唱得到，陳小漢常務求跌宕，唱到者則一炫耳目，唱不到者常出醜。以老年人玩唱之心態，陳小漢之曲難度其實較高。 而且陳小漢聲唔好則以奇腔搶耳，羅家寶聲唔好則以唱字見長，此為正本清源之法。是以某常尊羅而抑陳之原因。 其實現今唱曲者，已十人有八九唱陳笑風腔，其他b腔蝦腔都已少人唱。最大原因我認為並非全是陳之功力吸引，而是學唱者有形可學，有憑可依，練聲不必苛求，務專柔弱，氣不必足，常用偷換之法，一如上大人孔乙已，可照版煮碗，若新馬腔，凡腔，任腔，薛腔要練其聲至剛硬，要氣度充足，而且無形無象，難以捉摸，是業餘者、玩曲者必苦也。唱新馬腔如：明日將佢押返朝中，一定居功不淺，個淺字已玩死好多人。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2133 ) 日期：2013/03/28 18:57 留言者：一丁 手機兄， #2132 論陳笑風腔 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2134 ) 日期：2013/03/28 19:22 留言者：.KC 手机兄有料到！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2135 ) 日期：2013/03/28 19:44 留言者：辛奇士 愚见：入门系虾腔比B腔易，一个腔密一个腔疏。但深入则系虾腔比B腔难。腔疏而有味，甚考唱功，因无挨凭也。B腔唱多、唱少或唱歪一两粒音唔系咁觉，横掂不以常理行腔。风腔好难，行云流水，门口都唔易摸得到。好辛苦入得门来，眼花撩乱，似无法实有法，系内家修为。呢的系新凡风讲既，佢研究风腔多年，自认未摸清晒个底 （当然佢火麒麟唔剩系研究一个腔）。风腔之盛，因为风哥在香港，周时搞骚同讲学。真人近则多人学，书生风流人物又岩出骚。其实到家既真系唔多。 大喉名家小弟钟意大三元熊飞影、白燕仔同蒋艳红。小弟一的唔觉佢地有任何娇嫩。小弟将粗犷人物演绎如张飞、李逵、鲁志深、牛皋等归类为大霸喉；将马超、林冲、武松、赵子龙、单于云（山东响马）等归类为小武，粗中有细。两者腔的规范同而使声则有别。听熊飞影同源妙生的《夜战马超》便可分辨。罗品超、卢启光、新马都是小武喉，都没有用炸音。新靓就即系关德兴。佢唱武场如演黄飞鸿，一味嗌无跌宕，小弟唔欣赏。其他几位粤剧前辈未听过唔敢讲。 无驳咀就无吹水。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2136 ) 日期：2013/03/28 20:00 留言者：寸草心 羅家寶首本名曲: " 再進沈園 " 我鍾意. ...........演繹投入,貼切,有深度,不花巧,有韻味,大段邦王顯風格..... 演唱塑造 "陸游" 典範成功!........ .......趁热鬧咋! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2137 ) 日期：2013/03/28 20:46 留言者：寸草心 同意辛兄言,唱風腔到家難搵.風腔曲近曲壇風格,重唱不重演,如女平喉学,不如唱小名声腔! 風腔曲節奏緩慢,因顯唱功,故多清唱或配幾件樂器,最好係古箏,好少用到小提琴. 少唱清爽,高亢如士工中板,慢板.擅唱揚州二流,南音,乙反及反線等調;尤其以乙反曲之迂迴,婉轉腔韻見長. 陳笑風是儒雅才子型,風流則过獎囉! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2138 ) 日期：2013/03/28 22:40 留言者：辛奇士 寸草心兄: 风流本解儒雅潇洒，只不过後来杜牧有句诗：赢得风流薄幸名；的人将此辞借喻为男女之情o者。 风腔虽斯文，但绝对系男平腔，低子深而厚。未听过有女平唱得好风腔。陈X玉都未得。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2139 ) 日期：2013/03/29 00:27 留言者：Kc 正呀是••••• 數風流人物（查的的撐！）還看今朝呀耶！ 啱啱係唔死就要八一八！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2140 ) 日期：2013/03/29 02:51 留言者：八一八 羅家寶的 "再進沈園" 堪稱一絕. 但又有冇睇過佢嘅 "怡紅公子悼金釧" 呢? 包你發惡夢喇! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2141 ) 日期：2013/03/29 03:42 留言者：諾基亞 話有如內家功夫，某絕不敢認同，內家功夫，外柔內剛，初練時極柔如楊吳二家太極之慢練，後練亦雖極剛，如形意之五行十二形，否則慢練所蓄之力則不能爆發，內家功夫發力猛烈，輕則一掤手可令人發出過丈之遠。重則亦可於分寸間摧人五內，又鄭曼青云柔練以精氣神填充骨髓者，若謂如內家功夫，起碼氣勢不似，只「柔」此形一似。可問kc大佬。 大喉有數種，一種是武生喉，即楊延昭、李克用、岳飛、關羽等元帥大將所唱，氣度要淡定神閒，平穩實在為主，又有大花面喉，即做大劇奸角所用，如曹操、秦檜、賈似道等人用，偏怪異，好整怪聲，如二花面是閣下所論者如牛皋、張飛等，用炸音，直率少作腔或無腔，又有小武喉，即年青勇力者，如趙子龍，羅成，羅通，陸文龍等人，唱高音尖銳幼細一些。又有總生喉，多唱半平霸，即中年文官所唱者，如趙德芳，包公亦唱此腔，號為開面總，要乾淨利落，精神有斯文之氣。 女平唱小武較為優勝，他則較弱，蓋聲與氣之問題，女伶大喉其實多多少少都有點女人聲，猶其在高音處，如那些大喉首板，聲音多數薄弱一些，多聽多比較必然發覺。飛影所唱之大喉乃花面，蔣艷紅與白燕仔則小武見長，蔣白唱花面的其聲不夠粗。岳武穆班師，乃長曲也，飛影之喉顯然不對岳飛此角式，白玉堂所唱之武生喉更佳，而且力氣較充。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2142 ) 日期：2013/03/29 08:32 留言者：辛奇士 小弟说的内家修为不是真功夫。唱曲点会系武功呢？其内也乃是气质的沉湎。所谓腹有诗书气自华，唔读多的古文就养不成儒雅之气，也就唱不好风腔。名家很多是兼学其它艺术来帮补的：梅兰芳、罗家宝、芳艳芬擅丹青；马师曾书法独步。有内涵方能深入了解曲中的相近人物。呢的边个师父都教唔到。罗家宝与陈小汉的分别，除声腔之外，尚有气质风度也。不为尊者讳；新马唱工夸喇喇，但一到多情才子角色就局促，总带点市井气，例如《红梅复艳记》。 八一八曲友： 罗家宝个首《怡红公子悼金钏》系拉牛上树。後来何非凡度成凡腔名曲《水月祭金川》，叶绍德誉为独唱曲之王。女人汤丸既角色，凡哥胜虾哥多矣。反之演老角凡哥就唔系个皮。声线、腔口、气质决定了曲路。 借张国荣既名曲：「水」继续吹，不忍远离.....。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2143 ) 日期：2013/03/29 16:22 留言者：Kc 早晨！早晨！ 復活節假期第一天！ 得閒最好就聽下曲啦！ 凡腔，風腔，B腔，蝦腔，小弟獨愛新馬腔！ 可憐近人唱曲，乜腔都冇！ 變咗絲苗白米•••••••冇腔﹝糠﹜也！ 有次去睇騷，有位女平唱人地B腔名曲，學B哥咁抽晒筋！十分好笑！ 又有次聽人唱隻什麼錦江詩侶，台下紛紛去廁所！嫌悶也！ 業餘騷，班友唱倒唔甩唔撞都算好了！好少聽倒有乜腔咯？ 你話何乜棧乜腔？ 林乜寶乜腔？ 哈哈？大陸腔？又有爭議咯！

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