粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
任大家隨意發揮吧！ (表情33)
（出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2291 )
日期：2013/04/11 14:32
留言者：辛奇士

Kc兄：

百步之内，岂无芳草？大陆剧校多年来出过林锦屏、陈韵红、彭炽权、黄伟坤、黎骏声、欧凯明、蒋文端、苏春梅、王戈丹、林颖施等；曲艺团亦有李丹红、潘千芊、梁玉嵘等。香港八和亦有盖鸣辉、凌安僖、谢国璋等。佢地或未到名腔级，但绝对系唱得之人。师父领入门，修行在个人。师父的作用，在於启蒙、在於指引。艺术呢回事，一定讲天份。天才名腔在顿悟，知其然未必知所以然。唔知就唔识教。况且无佢既天份行佢条路系走唔通者也。

好多时名腔≠名师≠明师。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2292 )
日期：2013/04/11 15:43
留言者：KC

(大笑)
林锦屏、陈韵红、彭炽权、黄伟坤、黎骏声、欧凯明、蒋文端、苏春梅、王戈丹、林颖施等；曲艺团亦有李丹红、潘千芊、梁玉嵘等。香港八和亦有盖鸣辉、凌安僖、谢国璋等。

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小弟同意呢班大哥大姐專業！可以算有承傳！

但同一直以來此處傾開D 前輩, 相差好遠噃！ (表情34)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2293 )
日期：2013/04/11 16:52
留言者：老三

個人對粵劇學校培訓出來的學生，在唱功方面的成績，是給予很負面的評價的。甚至認為這是千人一腔，美式(聲)唱粵曲的禍根源頭。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2294 )
日期：2013/04/11 17:04
留言者：辛奇士

Kc兄：

人比人比死人。上述个班叫做有的睇头同听头咁o者。粤剧曲艺水准既全面下滑乃不争之事实也。唔知兄台有无留意小弟并无列入近年好红既梁X明、李X元、龙X天呢？绝对主观，小弟认为呢几位既唱工同前述一班人尚有差距。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2295 )
日期：2013/04/11 17:47
留言者：Hawaiian

大約在十年八年前,在網上睇佛山電視台(現在上唔到該台了).有一特輯叫”麥嘉講大戲”的節目,由當時的廣東粵劇院副院長麥嘉(最初誤會係香港那個講台山話的光頭佬明星)主持.每集都係講一些粵劇知識及示範,對於粵劇迷來講係幾有興趣.後來一次回港,見到該特輯的VCD光碟,買了回來在櫃桶一放數年.今日執拾什物,拿出睇咗第一隻,示範各種指法,扇法和水袖表演,內容豐富值得一看.

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2296 )
日期：2013/04/11 18:14
留言者：辛奇士

Hawaiian兄：

套VCD小弟亦买了多年。里面示范个花旦胡涓涓便是麦嘉太太。有个小演员便是林颖施(现为演艺剧团正印花旦)。计起黎都有成十年了。

(好!)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2297 )
日期：2013/04/11 20:00
留言者：麥友成

我提議組班示範唱腔丶何為好何為正統,kc做統籌,唔係吹水,粵劇生死關頭,不容怠慢。 (表情38)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2298 )
日期：2013/04/11 21:39
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 大哥成：乜咁大整古？

錯誤示範，搵小弟冇問題！

正確同正統？

我都諗唔倒邊位至有此資歷！

如此一來，若由小弟搞，粵曲粵劇本已氣若逰𢇃，即變壽終正寢咯！
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2299 )
日期：2013/04/11 23:07
留言者：麥友成

哈哈!講就天下無敵,做就無能為力,個個都係包括我,其實好與不好都是個人喜好,甚麼公認乸認都係大聲夾冇準,抝餐死,唉!有怪莫怪細路仔唔識世界,。 (表情24)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2300 )
日期：2013/04/11 23:50
留言者：tt

大哥成您好嘢 (表情23) 整蠱四阿哥 (表情30) (表情29)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2301 )
日期：2013/04/12 00:11
留言者：一家言

　　评说粤剧或曲艺，总要实事求是，说到现今青年一辈，无论是香港抑或省市粤剧团，若与前一辈最优秀的演员相比，确实存在相当距离，但不好因此就否定专门院校的存在必要。如今粤剧走下坡路，各种新兴艺术分流观众，是一个不能忽视的重要因素。如今观众，尤其是中年人和后生在娱乐消遣方面的选择太多，就算薛觉先、何非凡、新马仔返生登台，我看也未必能吸引更多的观众看戏。明白到这一点，便不会一味埋怨内地的老倌唱的都是大陆腔，有声无韵味，跟以前的大老倌无得比，如何如何。鲁迅笔下有个著名的“九斤老太”，她老是抱怨世事今不如昔，说她出生时还有九斤，到她儿子出生时只得八斤，到她孙子出生时更不行，瘦得只有七斤，其实早期的一斤只是后来那种秤一斤的七八两，时势越发展，原来的一斤就越少，最早的司马秤是三十六两为一斤，为了计算方便，后来进化到十六两为一斤，再后来跟国际接轨，进化到十两为一斤，旧有的一斤是比新制的一斤少的。老是认为过去的东西，就一定比今天的优胜，那你就不要用电话和电邮，仍旧写信跟人沟通好了。既然今天什么都比过去糟糕，那你出门也不用坐地铁和打的，一个人慢慢步行好了！既然裹个麻袋也可以挡风，还穿什么羊毛衫呢？有时看问题真不能这样绝对。
　　当年有很多著名的京剧名伶，都将自己的子女送到什么富连成等专门的剧社（当时还没有剧校）坐科学艺，而不希望让孩子跟着自己启蒙，他们都是让孩子在剧社学上三五七年，都掌握了表演的系统性基础技能了，才让孩子跟着父辈搭班演戏，从而从更高的层次上提升孩子的表演艺术。其实，这正是他们的高明之处，一是父辈平日忙于演出，根本没时间很全面地教自己的孩子，二是任何一个名家，他有个人的长处同时也一定有他的局限性，如果孩子初涉此道，便只跟着父辈学，很容易一叶障目，不见泰山。所以从剧校出来的人，未必个个都能大红大紫，但跟着父母出身的行内人，又有几个是其本领拍得住父辈的？梁×康？还是阮×锵？抑或邓×尊？半个都没有！这好比没几个大学毕业生能得诺贝尔奖金，但你能不能说全世界都不用办大学了呢？

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2302 )
日期：2013/04/12 00:33
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 一家言兄說得有理！ (拍掌)

但粵曲粵劇承傳，真的是一代不如一代！

可能時代演變！能吃苦練出絕學的人少了！

像以往自細練功，也絕少了！

香港演藝，學生似乎都中學畢業了吧！入得粵藝班，又要聲色藝俱全，至今都未之見！
此乃現況！奈何！

反之有心人卻不少！此處發言諸君，很多都身體力行！

君不見老三兄在旺角搞緊街騷推廣粵曲咩？

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