粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
任大家隨意發揮吧！ (表情33)
（出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1544 )
日期：2013/02/07 21:21
留言者：寸草心

我亦係樂盲,但照上數貼兩位仁兄都似各有道理! (沉思) (表情42)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1545 )
日期：2013/02/07 21:46
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 咁就要睇乜嘢級數師父咯！

叻果D，尹自重，馮華，咁泥就咁去囉！

你卜卜脆咸脆花生，桂林馬蹄，我咪照去，吹咩？

有乜線口問題先！有冇聽過果隻二胡什麼百鳥歸巢！雀仔聲又乜嘢線口呀？

唔通你叫隻雀唱尺五線先跟倒乎？

話明學口學舌吖馬！跟唔倒就渣斗啦！ (表情23)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1546 )
日期：2013/02/08 05:22
留言者：TL

(表情30)
哎到七國咁亂，唔知點插口。
有不同級數嘅唱口，也有不同級數嘅師傅。應該點做，好難一言以蔽之。各人出來玩嘅動機不同，對自己的要求各異，我站在音樂佬嘅立場，尊重每一類型的唱家。帶住去還是跟住去，對不同人有不同做法。
kc兄對線口的理解可能有誤。正線反線尺五線等等係指乜調（乜key)，由乜線轉乜線，係轉調。一般而言，轉調對音樂師傅來講唔係問題。各件樂器較音時較得準唔準，或者唱家開口食唔食到線，咁就係線口問題。如果唔食線，過高過低，已經較定咗音嘅樂器係將就唔到嘅，叫馮華來一樣冇符。 (表情33)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1547 )
日期：2013/02/08 04:58
留言者：霞霞
電郵：hymkasumi@gmail.com

(#1542)CK前輩:
係上面，跟蝦哥！
係下面，跟祥哥！
(表情23)
一語雙關,笑死我!

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1548 )
日期：2013/02/08 09:24
留言者：Kc

(大笑) TL兄：吹下水，不要認真！

Key. 同缐口，我仲分倒！

我胡吹同大家開開玩笑！

最主要是學口學舌！

我點咪你點囉！

呢D係唱口大晒心理而已！冇乜對錯！

係態度錯！反諷吧了！ (表情23)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1549 )
日期：2013/02/08 09:41
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 不過大部份唱粵曲朋友冇能力記譜，倒也是事實！

能準確記倒譜，對聽音準的訓練，是件好事！

對唱歌也很有俾益！

但並不是人人需要有此訓練，才可唱粵曲，倒也是事實！ (表情33)

有D唱家，根本連工尺譜都唔識睇！讀倒小弟都話佢好嘢了！

你話我話都得嘞！

四洲杯省城部份，有個環節，考考歌手樂理！

有D唱得好好嘅！完全好簡單嘅都答唔倒！可見一斑！

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1550 )
日期：2013/02/08 11:05
留言者：TL

(表情33) kc兄：我都估到你開玩笑，不過被奇士兄擺上台，焗住要講幾句而已。
有唔同級數嘅唱家和師傅，其實亦有唔同級數嘅學生同老師。既然各人出來玩嘅動機不同，要求各異，就不妨各自搵啱心水嘅老師，就算唔搵亦係無妨。粵曲的興旺，重在多人參與。人數多了，精英便呼之欲出了。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1551 )
日期：2013/02/08 11:28
留言者：辛奇士

众曲友：

愚见：唱艺之路，一看天赋、二看投入、三看明灯、四看目的。若无何非凡、红线女的自然高亢声线，学佢地既腔唔会成功。一日打鱼，九日晒网，天生玉喉亦难成唱家。没有方法，死掘烂掘都开唔到水井。与坊间说法不同，小弟不支持无意识、无理论、无研究的多听多唱。若非志在唱艺，只为过日辰、念口簧既，又唔使咁认真噃。最弊系唯我主义，众为山岭我为峰，望下不望上。小弟一直信奉的是：唱无第一，学无笫二。
(表情33) (表情16)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1552 )
日期：2013/02/08 12:06
留言者：知少少

学粤曲不学乐谱等于未学行先学走，与写毛笔字一样，未跟田字格描红把正楷字写好，今后别想写出龙飞凤舞字。所以无论几辛苦都要慢慢重新学习补上。

(大笑)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1553 )
日期：2013/02/08 13:19
留言者：Kc

正言若反！

做人有時咪鬼一本正經，大講耶和華！

鬼唔知按步就班，萬丈高樓由地起！

需知學粵曲，最大的族群是C9一族！

鬼得閒同你先工尺，後唱腔乎？

三朝兩日，就站上台露下四五吋嘅事業線！

咁至頂癮吖馬？ (表情23)

三四堂無成！轉倉去也！吹乎？

講藝術？演藝都未講倒啦！

就憑我地幾條友？

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1554 )
日期：2013/02/08 13:19
留言者：辛奇士

知少少曲友：

所言甚是。若有万中出一的超级天才，则不在常理讨论之中也。讲起写字，小弟小时练毛笔字，先学永字八法，再临帖。当年觉得闷，只是为交功课，马虎了事。现在真应了：少壮不努力，老大徒伤悲。有时看见名家书法墨宝，也想来效颦一下；只是握管手发抖，直笔变斜笔。学坏了手势，回头已太难矣。仲想补一句，基功学後需勤练。大老倌们天天走圆台、喊声。唔通唔识？非也！唔通贪辛苦？亦非也！只是一天不练自己知，两天不练对手知，三天不练观众知而已。到底练几多？看个人唱艺目标而定。小弟推崇初学者先跟导师学基功。自己练，一来可能进度慢；二来更重要的是错左都唔知！

(拍掌) (表情6)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1555 )
日期：2013/02/08 14:20
留言者：知少少

多谢认同。

粤曲是非常深奥的东西。新马仔琵琶行一曲唱到，弹共唱声与艺确系天生。如果你没有这份天赋，哪怕你上几十堂甚至几百堂课亦枉然。试问鸡仔声鹅公喉如何练就？这包含了评审粤曲的第二大要素。气度。上回已述寸度。气度所讲就是你的声线和气量能够支持你唱哪一类型粤曲。是否懂得使用丹田之气和共鸣音。吞吐文字是否够清楚，词句道白是否能以情带声感染听众。还有...............

(大笑)

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