粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6450 ) 日期：2014/04/17 16:46 留言者：新凡风 全文场始终寡了点。尾曲开十点搭二，有约一成人走。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6451 ) 日期：2014/04/17 21:33 留言者：tt 玉笙妹妹，I love you! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6452 ) 日期：2014/04/17 23:02 留言者：老三 转到这里继续吹水…。 街唱中出现的那位练姑娘，满头白发，七张以上。唱起红腔，掌声雷动…，难道又是万中无一？老三和她谈了一阵，得知她唱曲不足五年，师傅亦非名门大师…。另外，老三亦见到、听到不少30后、40后的发烧友，声清气足地唱粤曲…(当然，声清气足并不代表唱得好听)，这万中无一肯定不符合实情呵…。 有一个甚简单的方法，可以大致区别出谁人将来七老八十时唱曲，是依然可以继续“燕语莺声”“声清气足”的，就是现今她/他唱曲时，好像全不用气、全不花力似的，正所谓的“举重若轻”。这，不代表其天赋过人，而是其发声用气的方法高超。我们去看一些发烧友的曲骚，往往都见到唱者满头大汗，青筋暴现之景象…。相比那些气定神闲的八和弟子，便可判技术上的分野。 还有，郑培英、林小群、黄少梅…，等等许多的老人家，都还很唱得的呵，又是用“天赋”去解释？当然，一个人若然老到讲话都泛力，就难望其可以动听地唱曲了。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6453 ) 日期：2014/04/18 00:23 留言者：新凡风 老三曲兄： 奇士兄没有说完整，您很快便跳到自己的固有的技巧压到天赋的结论上去。区区确有时气度不足而作出调整，但限於新马腔，其他腔无问题。此腔重声功，气贯丹田，更求复合共鸣。KC曲兄是新马迷，谅可证明。祥哥晚年东华筹款现场唱乞食，同曾慧唱琵琶行，声气与入碟时差很远，听头大减。这当然不是祥哥唱工回糖，是生理时钟不饶他。数月前区区街唱曾献丑几首新马独唱曲，每首都哑了几粒音。这在数年前是不会发生的。没办法，时不我与矣。区区从来珍惜声线，不会超负荷，亦不会揸喉冲高子，故此托赖声带从来无甚大毛病。 2010年区区个唱九曲唱八，有文有武。至大轴曲《宋江怒杀阎婆惜》开曲时已是十一点。嘉宾陈嘉鸣是声厂，没有咁上下声量顶唔住。曲中老生京腔四平调应唱E线，运用後脑共鸣。区区则是更高的F线。效果如何？现场观众与网友(已上土豆网)可自己判断。若声带负担过重，早已失声，何能唱完？之所以自剖，非是卖花赞花香，可减少争议也。 区区音域，来自父母。当然亦花了不少精力去寻找(不是创造)自己高低子的极限。至於声质的实、透、亮，则是半由人力半由天矣。更要强调，唱曲是曲艺发声(连口白亦是)，不是生活声。专业与业余分野往往在於此。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6454 ) 日期：2014/04/18 08:39 留言者：一丁 新兄， 老三兄係回應辛兄所講，辛兄沒有說完整(風爐的說話)，係辛兄佢問題呵。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6455 ) 日期：2014/04/18 08:43 留言者：大龙凤 音质可以透过锻炼来改善，大家都认同，不必再议。讨论主题系音域，特别系高子，可唔可以透过正确既技巧来扩阔？老三认为可以，新凡风认为不可以。本探长认为举别人例有机会断估，倒不如举自己。估计两位兄台各用自己理论来处理高子。敢问两位平地起音，最高而堪听系边个音阶？ 大龙凤曲艺探案之四十三。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6456 ) 日期：2014/04/18 08:59 留言者：一丁 探長轉行做主持人。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6457 ) 日期：2014/04/18 09:09 留言者：辛奇士 对唔住，小弟讲D唔讲D系唔岩。风炉系大声公。有次同佢系街截的士赶骚，抡搭既人好多。有部空的由远而近，一群人正准备涌上去；忽然间风炉霹历一声：的士！成班人窒左，我地从容上车。风炉仲好滋阴话佢方才系武场叫头，畀佢吹涨！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6458 ) 日期：2014/04/18 10:23 留言者：KC 早晨！早晨！ 多謝各位俾面！在此發表對聲音的看法！ 相信此類功力考慮，一如武術，既有先天的限制，復有後天的緞練，亦有年歲消磨的痕跡！ 但其中當有內家外家拳不同的考慮！ 不同練法，可能效益各有不同！不同感悟，自有不同經驗！ 所以才有大家所述各種情況！ 固見有老者老當益壯！亦見有老就冇的事實！ 正如人的體質一樣，難以一慨而論也！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6459 ) 日期：2014/04/18 11:22 留言者：辛奇士 如果高子练得到既话，就要同虾哥讲，话佢使声技巧有问题。因为佢个本自传《艺海沉浮六十年》话虾腔系因为自己高音唔得、中低音有肉而度出黎既。风炉借过呢本书畀小弟睇，首页仲有虾哥亲笔签名添。 大龙凤探长要查清楚，呢个系大是大非，唔系争啖气。好多曲友想知道真相黎决定学乜野腔、唱子定唱平。 系大陆，选材重声；声唔靓根本入唔到行。唔会有靓次伯、上海妹呢类名腔出现。B哥唔系异数，佢後生时把声好靓。呢点广州既行内人一家言先生可作权威发言。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6460 ) 日期：2014/04/18 11:32 留言者：新 凡风 回6455帖： C20线： 真声彳乙、假声彳工。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.6461 ) 日期：2014/04/18 11:54 留言者：老三 KC兄这个武功论的比如，很有贴切性，老三正想说明这一点的。 新曲兄唱新马腔，就十足在用硬功…，力度和气量都甚劲…。但，岁月很容易击倒这硬功…。 芝姐简生用的是内功、软功，四两拨千斤，受岁月影响功力的情况便少许多了。

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