粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.724 ) 日期：2012/12/18 11:08 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 兄言甚是。业余出免费骚持曲，小弟绝无异议。出埋提场机都得。抛曲只是登顶手段之一，绝不是目的。如无登顶的决心与能力，业余是不必抛曲的。老倌当然有这能力，抛不抛是畀介与受介间的沟通。现今班事淡静，说太忙多是借口。闻某些出骚阔人倒是要求老倌持曲读曲，恐衬低自己！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.725 ) 日期：2012/12/18 18:00 留言者：Kc 拋曲是第一堦段，要專業搵食，人地細細個就入行接受訓練，都未必成功！ 呢班港燦齋識唱仁兄，心存僥悻！ 以為拋曲，搵半邊大老倌就可收錢？真係太睇少班騷塲常客了！ 而家班大哥大姐，高山太高唔去，葵青都嫌遠，荃大嫌要行，油麻地嫌細！ 聽過唔掂，俾飛都唔要，琴晚kc在高山，只得五成人度！仲係最高人數！吉位多到隔個人坐都得！有個女人，見隔離條友咳！走到隔幾個位避都得！ 聽講真係好難搵人填滿個場，不要忘記琴晚有吳曉毅，李翠翠，崔紫君添！全部都係尃業文武生花旦！ 仲有麗聲個老板娘麗嫦，聽得出受過尃業訓練也！ 所以單單克服不持曲，是不足以收錢的！ 要收錢，要聲色藝俱全，五功四法練成！咁至有D成數噃！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.726 ) 日期：2012/12/18 18:14 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 岩晒！想卖飞梗系要三番起胡啦。 就算免费骚，选择太多，自是择「肥」而噬啦。一半天一半地唔过瘾。新佬话佢拣骚既标准系期待值而唔系名气值。唉，唔系好明佢讲乜！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.727 ) 日期：2012/12/19 00:51 留言者：Kc 現今香港騷場，主要是一班業餘的朋友在玩，很多是消閒性質！ 而出騷亦以娛樂自己為主!所以肯出錢出力而樂此不疲！ 根本kc好少見有人出騷是為了賺錢！連收支平衡也不考慮！ 只希望快快樂樂，玩一晚，影番輯靚相！唱到冇甩冇撞，已是功德圓滿了！ 持曲玩到悶，才會考慮拋曲！並不會想賺錢，才去拋曲的！ 觀眾去捧場，只想聽倒演出者的曲藝！冇人會斤斤計較有否持曲！ 反而拋曲蝦碌咗！觀眾就會話，似咪攞泥衰呢？ 乖乖地唱好隻歌先吖馬！ 至於拋曲唱倒，觀眾又只覺理當如此！又有乜出奇呢？ 所以業餘者考慮拋唔拋曲？自度嘞！ 再加一句，業餘考慮賣飛！此事萬萬不可也！除非請倒阿刨做嘉賓！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.728 ) 日期：2012/12/19 01:21 留言者：麥友成 急急如律令......有請西...瓜....刨! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.729 ) 日期：2012/12/19 07:00 留言者：tt 拋唔拋曲有乜所謂.玩得開心最重要. Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.730 ) 日期：2012/12/19 08:35 留言者：Kc 識做戲的朋友，拋曲根本就是理所當然之事！ 相信冇乜邊個演戲的儍瓜，會持曲演戱的！ 但現今香港騷塲竟發展到持曲綵唱，甚至一邊持曲，一邊不持曲的怪鷄現象！ 真係笑死人冇命賠！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.731 ) 日期：2012/12/19 08:55 留言者：辛奇士 kc兄： 世事无奇不有。小弟见过一边专业(受介)一边业佘(畀介)唱一首那专业曾录碟(也就是原唱)的曲：业余抛曲而专业视唱。且慢！那业了还挺享受的样子。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.732 ) 日期：2012/12/19 10:29 留言者：四姑娘 我就見過業餘者請大老官，是紅褲仔，出錢的十分認真，大官持曲簿，光耀奪目，十分耀眼，但是與觀衆無交流，搬字過口，一看便知無備曲，突然間發台慍，唔知唱到邊，絲絲沙沙抄本曲，本靚簿揚下揚下，台下笑到扒地！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.733 ) 日期：2012/12/19 10:31 留言者：Kc 辛兄：相信不專業是香港騷塲的特有現象也！ d亞太理鬼你什麼藝術，什麼視覺享受咩？ 佢玩得開心趙是！ 其實拋曲有何難？說穿了粵曲只是文辭的吟唱！不外乎上下句！三字句，七字句，八字句，十字句！ 不外乎綁子二王小曲之類！有何難哉？ 拋曲執生而唱仲易也！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.734 ) 日期：2012/12/19 11:27 留言者：Kc 如果知道粵曲的曲式，本身文學根底又好，隨口噏都押韻！鍾意點唱都得啦！音樂是拍和，根本唔駛擔心會撞你！如果樂師有料的話！ 點解而家班大哥大姐覺得拋曲咁死難？因為要記唱詞，又記唱腔！比如何華棧隻沈園遺恨，有個腔成兩三行工尺！大佬？班大哥對住譜都未唱得啱！叫佢拋曲唱？不如叫佢落台等kc上去唱好過啦！ 如果知句格，知結構，改鬼咗佢做短腔，收咗佢！吹咩！一樣得之馬！ 正如念詩白：泣血重回•••••死嘞唔記得添 咁舊家園••••都得之馬，何況仲有個叉的撐時間比你諗！ 係咪？冇料果D咪企咗係度•••••咁咪玩完囉！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.735 ) 日期：2012/12/19 11:50 留言者：辛奇士 小弟的经验，曲骚与考试一样，开书肯定比闭书容易。背曲若曲不熟或信心不足实变背镬。 Kc兄所说的似乎是机械式的「默」曲，这是舍本逐末，小弟并不赞成。抛曲有难度，但不代表唱功。抛曲作为手段的作用是将读曲的精力分配到腔、声、情、做、关目上去，从而使演绎更丰富完美。到就好，不分专业或业余。当然，唱艺金字塔上尖下阔，能站尖顶有几人？小弟现在是比塔底层更低的井里之蛙，优游而知足。知道并承认外边的天空更广阔更蓝，却无力爬出去。

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