粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3892 ) 日期：2013/07/29 19:42 留言者：Kc 我就覺得而家至係粵曲粵藝的黃金年代嘞！ 以前唔窮唔慘，冇人肯學戲！學藝辛苦過乜！ 賺倒錢要俾晒師父！ 而家有錢想學乜都得！ 上台演出，有水即成！ 仲唔係演藝的黃金年代！ 以前得隻紅船四圍去！用竹棚做戲院！ 而家十八區都有社區會堂啦！ 活在當下！ 以前冇咁好！ 而家最好！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3893 ) 日期：2013/07/29 19:50 留言者：麥友成 成日呻末落,又死唔斷氣,都幾離奇。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3894 ) 日期：2013/07/29 20:42 留言者：路過 其實三十年代的粵劇，在經濟上也不算好景。1933年男女同班正是全球性經濟大蕭條下的產物。因為男花旦的戲金太高，太平劇團從全女班聘請譚蘭卿上海妹，減低成本。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3895 ) 日期：2013/07/29 22:31 留言者：Kc 憶苦思甜！ 老人家就成日話以前點好，點掂！ 而家又呢樣睇唔過眼！果樣又睇唔過眼！ D C9 又點唔掂！D音樂，鑼鼓樣樣死火！ 嘩！大佬！煩唔煩死人呀！ 預啱個唔好老脾！ 咁，不如你番去舊時果度啦！醒！ 到今時今日，仲講什麼金山貞？新靚乜？ 唉！乜嘢年代呀？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3896 ) 日期：2013/07/30 09:27 留言者：辛奇士 而家系有水就有得玩既年代。出骚咩：同曲班同学、局友、名家老倌出骚；只要水够，闲过立秋。再唔岩入碟；入过碟仲唔系唱家？钱唔系万能，但系钱做唔到既野唔多。 而家系白糖糕上大茶楼既年代。只要包装边适当，曲骚完全系高级文化艺术既盛事！虽然白糖糕味道一样，但大茶楼同大排档既身价就差得远喇！拿，文化、港大、沙大、新光咪系大茶楼罗；三哥既街唱咪系大排档罗！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3897 ) 日期：2013/07/30 09:24 留言者：Kc 早晨！早晨！ 新的一天！又向一世夠一世夠進發！ 新的希望！ 做人當然可以懹舊，冇舊又點會有新呢？ 粵曲粵劇就比較少搞創新！ 新嘢D老人家多數好難接受！ 一句薛老渣都唔係咁！就不能接受了！ 誰不知，當年薛老渣卻是出名的改革派也！ 人有時就係如此嘞！ 新不如舊！趙是！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3898 ) 日期：2013/07/30 10:02 留言者：辛奇士 梗怀旧啦！而家D戏迷、曲迷都上左年纪，一定会比较新旧。小时候戏迷、曲迷范围广泛，乜职业、乜年纪都有。而家我地同D仔女讲粤剧粤曲点正，佢地以为黎左外星人！儿童折子戏收一级班价爆棚，坐中十之八九系老柴！观众与演员系水与舟既关系。观众无传承，演员自然无。观众喜怀旧，演员难创新。而家D粤剧新秀十几岁至话入行，边有童子功？无几多老观众睇过薛、马；但系会睇过女、芳、新马、凡、任、白、波等；新秀功既不如，忆又不及，受弹系自然既。因为感觉新不如旧，所以逑姐、细女姐、风哥、B哥七老八十仲系台上活跃。边度仲有新马当年一枝《卧薪尝胆》唱走薛觉先既故仔吖！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3899 ) 日期：2013/07/30 15:12 留言者：kc 正呀是: 衣不如新！ 曲不如故咯！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3900 ) 日期：2013/07/30 15:28 留言者：NOKIA 點止粵曲，流行曲都係一樣，你睇星夢傳奇，有邊個唔係唱八十九十年代既歌，二千年都只唱陳奕信，一就索性唱英文歌，有個小姐重唱聲樂添。現今之新人，連字也讀不準，野都唔識講，淨係識打字，還說甚麼唱歌。抄歌，抄詞，抄編曲，抄配樂。現今粵語流行歌就係咁既環境。 其實kc講得啱，某覺得現今粵曲是近廿年最興旺的時刻了，至起碼往會堂唱曲的師奶呀姐多如薏米芡實，但愈來愈少人去k房唱流行曲。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3901 ) 日期：2013/07/30 16:38 留言者：辛奇士 兴旺只系粤曲骚，从前无呢味唔贵既梦剧场。实际听同唱粤曲既人系少左。粤剧演出同观众就系滚水渌猪肠，两头缩。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3902 ) 日期：2013/07/30 22:07 留言者：Kc 有空走去海報區睇睇！ 訪問下各參與的朋友！ 就會有完全不同的觀感了！ 還有幾多朋友開口埋口都上世紀？ 還有多少朋友認識什麼薛馬爭雄呢？ 還不是玩得十分開心！ 做人應該與時並進！ 活在當下！ 趙是！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3903 ) 日期：2013/07/30 22:13 留言者：邓伟坚 　　在网上看到大家对取消“求谱区”的讨论，忍不住也说几句。现今，有人唱曲，有人撰曲，自然也有人抄曲和记谱译曲，跟唱曲人相比，可能撰写粤曲的人为数最少，我作为撰曲人之一，当然希望越多人唱自己写的曲越好，同时大家都能尊重作者的知识版权，如不要翻刻原版的唱碟送人和出售牟利，这是牵涉到尊重撰曲人知识版权的最起码的要求。两年前，我在中国唱片广州分公司出版了个人第一张粤曲作品ＣＤ，其中收录有《隆中对》和《喋血睢阳》两首对唱曲，为了方便香港的曲友，我自己专门用电脑打译成直排的工尺谱——因为香港代售ＣＤ的商店提出，一定要有工尺谱配套出售，否则别人再喜欢也不大会买。据我所知，香港有专人代人抄曲和译写曲谱，通常抄一份曲价钱也不菲。一些比较讲究的高端唱家，还有个人专用的私伙曲纸，上面写明“×××曲纸”，但大多数人使用的通常是某人请人抄了一份出来，便大家都借来互相复印使用，似乎没有谁会考虑到这样做会侵犯了谁的知识版权，因为没有曲纸，唱者和拍和的乐师便无从依凭，第一个请人抄曲的人已付过抄曲费，不可能再让其他复印的人再付抄曲费给抄曲者。这如同出钱请人写曲录音的唱家，他向撰曲人付过撰曲的笔金，唱片出版后其他人学唱或出骚翻唱此曲，撰曲人没理由向这些唱者索取笔金，至少目前内地和香港还没有这样的法例。 　　在网上设立“求谱区”，有利于粤曲的传播，促进曲友们互通有无，我想大多数的撰曲人都希望唱自己作品的人越多越好，至于抄曲人的知识版权，相对于撰曲人来说，是没有多少意义的。目前香港有多少人唱粤曲，如果都不准曲友拿现成的曲纸来复印，每个人都尊重抄曲出钱请人抄所谓的私伙曲纸，这实在很不现实，试问现时香港有多少职业抄曲人呢！

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