粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7264 ) 日期：2014/06/17 13:15 留言者：老三 寸哥：大家包唔包括老三呀？不如寸哥来街唱，唱翻支寸歌寸曲，然后请大家去宵夜，米得罗！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7265 ) 日期：2014/06/17 15:53 留言者：麥友成 今晚又以曲會友嘞~正係得歡顏處且歡顏~ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7266 ) 日期：2014/06/17 16:06 留言者：guan 寸友， 上次你话“不管曲友給你口碑如何, 小草亦甘称你為前輩,” 论年纪呆未必大得过你，讲欣赏粤曲，呆确实做得你前辈有凸！你以为呆的口碑如何？咪咁肤浅啦，咪被少数的噪音掩盖沉默的大多数，呆的粉丝多到你想都想唔到咁多，其实屎到如阁下都会欣赏呆，其他拿埋水平都比你高嘅又点会唔欣赏呆呢，平常佢哋默默无闻，依家咪蒲几件出来咯。 个位过路嘅，呆讲过什么连呆自己都忘记咗嘅佢竟然可以如数家珍咁念番出来，你话佢粉呆粉到什么程度呢？呢次佢出来讲四忽，其实系睇唔过眼你咁夸赞B腔，含蓄地摑你一个耳光，咪过拾下拾下，被人摑咗都唔知咁懵得架。 蕃薯姐知呆钟意听何述松，特意上深圳揾人转换佢珍藏嘅录音成mp3赠呆，真是物轻情意重，呢点粉丝你去边处揾？ 呵呵！难得咁多粉丝出来撑场，又写番篇嘢来娱乐下大家。（讲明先，呢个大家可能唔包括寸友，皆因冇佢都成事也。） 讲起B腔，令呆想起细个睇过一套电影《窈窕淑女》，其中有一幕，希根教授带着卖花女到皇宫参加舞会，遇到昔日弟子，教授问弟子点解穿成咁，头发都唔理，弟子答：“老师，我冇你咁嘅样貌，身材又差，如果我穿戴整齐嘅，边个会注意到我啵！”呢个弟子就系陈小汉的写照。他的什么所谓四忽二密，正正是用来掩饰佢功力不足。以呆所见, B腔一如吴文英的词“驟眼望去，有如七宝楼台，眩人耳目。碎拆下来，不成片断”而已！ 其实陈小汉唔识想，样唔好，身材差系咪就无出头天？梗系唔系喇，薛觉先，李向荣就系典型例子啦，其实历史上,有几个名腔真系天赋好突出架？仔细数，白玉堂，桂名扬，甚至吕玉郎，边个唔系有着呢样那样的缺点，肯努力,肯坚持，一样成名腔，货真价实嗰种，B腔走精面，就只合教授最后同佢朋友毕上校所讲：“He's a fraud！” 蕃薯姐话<同是天涯>只是咸魚翻生，此言差矣，陈小汉早期唱腔尚可一听，例如佢同梁少芯合作唱嘅紫凤楼，但就算如此，都唱唔过一个业余唱家，想落都几丑，到唱《同是天涯沦落人》的时候，已经完全唔掂，要用大陆腔搭够，你觉得他咸魚翻生，是作曲的功劳，首曲太好，救番他，类似的情况有好多，陈少风的山伯临终，其实风腔边系腔，仔细分析，除了造作，剩低的还是造作，首曲太好，咪成一曲歌王咯。 香港原来都好多人学风腔，但有个好奇怪的现象，就系学风腔嘅大部分人唱得都比陈少风好，点解？因为人家只学佢的发口，唔学佢的发声，只要唔用大陆腔唱粤曲，唱得十年八载，差嘥都有个谱。 评得B腔同风腔，都唔差在评埋虾腔，有朋友问呆虾哥点睇，虾腔系大陆呢三件名腔唯一稍为入得呆法耳的唱口，只有他是坚持用正宗的粤艺唱腔唱粤曲，但限于天赋，呆看罗家宝其实就系退化版嘅谭家宝咯，大家想象一下，谭家宝把声变沙点，音域窄点，气量差点，技巧又差点，咪就成个罗家宝咯。严格来说谭家宝都算是一级，但未到顶级，因为演绎手法嫌板直，所以成不了名腔，打个比方，谭家宝就如金庸小说内的裘千刃，强如水上飘当年都未能上华山论剑，膺品嘅裘千尺居然成了名腔，世事荒唐若此，夫复何言！ 寸友你依家水平低所以唔晓分辨好丑，呆当播种，希望有日你开窍就会觉“明”是而“今”非了，咪同呆讲什么青菜箩卜，各有所好，当你讲呢句话时其实是要有前置设定，就是两者是同级的才能成立，打个比方，呆以前都有写诗，呆只乸都不知几冧，直头觉得好过李杜，你话佢唔识嘢，佢就话青菜箩卜，各有所好而已！咁唔通呆的诗真系可以同李杜比咩，非也！呆隻乸唔会分好丑，所以才会引喻失义，笑死人咯！B腔同其他名腔唔系青菜箩卜，而是粉丝同鱼翅的分别。 喜爱可以不同，高低一定要晓分辨，因为这个关乎品味，你问呆钟唔钟意猫王皮礼士利唱歌，呆就答你唔钟意，因为呆嫌佢cam cam地，但若果问呆他唱得好唔好，呆就一定话顶瓜瓜，因为呆有品味，识分高低咯！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7267 ) 日期：2014/06/17 16:30 留言者：路過 昨天小弟所提到某音樂家評陳小漢“四忽”腔，其實是六忽，除了快慢高低外，還有兩樣，小弟忘記了。 也聽過別人對陳笑風的看法：聽他的曲就像隔靴搔癢，又似在喝一碗浮滿油的湯。 六十年代除譚家寶外，聲線接近的還有梁天雁。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7268 ) 日期：2014/06/17 16:49 留言者：麥友成 唔好聽人講吖~.自己有自己感覺嘛~ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7269 ) 日期：2014/06/18 03:43 留言者：諾基亞 忽大聲忽細聲。 老關，個邊紅腔幾句都唔肯賜教，呢度就長篇大論，厚此薄彼矣。另外再請教你「同是天涯淪落人」曲好，還是潘一帆的琵琶行好？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7270 ) 日期：2014/06/17 22:45 留言者：路過 小弟也想請教關兄，＜同是＞一曲，好在那裡？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7271 ) 日期：2014/06/17 22:48 留言者：老三 乱嗡廿四……！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7272 ) 日期：2014/06/18 00:27 留言者：麥友成 今晚唱了同事天涯淪落人~此後將會好唔得閒~ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7273 ) 日期：2014/06/18 02:46 留言者：寸草心 三哥好带契! 小草重未瘀夠咩!? 現身街唱实变箭猪! 傾住咁多先! 就开波! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7274 ) 日期：2014/06/18 04:12 留言者：老三 瘀下好闲遮，学到野紧要丫马……！哈哈……！ 陆续仲有得瘀架，拒无话你知咩？ 都系老三累左你了，点先帮到你呀？洗唔洗帮你瘀翻拒啊？！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.7275 ) 日期：2014/06/18 04:54 留言者：寸草心 打平, 冇輸赢!

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