粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3388 ) 日期：2013/06/27 12:50 留言者：辛奇士 TL兄： 小弟不才，忽得老鼠(畀人喊打)联，搏得啖笑： 三面风烟九章落， 一头雾水鸡糊和。 (九谐狗) 横批：盲拳打死老师傅 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3389 ) 日期：2013/06/27 13:48 留言者：諾基亞 kc兄，你個鐘敲唔響喎 半隻燒鵝如何地上行？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3390 ) 日期：2013/06/27 14:33 留言者：TL guan:挑剔得好！“浮名”等等要改。 不是我沒有寫題目，是你大意。頸聯（即你所說腹聯）“間關消息”，已是懷人語。又，間關，於此作道路崎嶇解，漢書王莽傳：間關至漸台。 辛兄：將粵語方言入詩者時有，只是跡近打油。以正統詩學視之，已入魔道，客氣些說是難登大雅。但詼諧文字理應佔文學殿堂一席，故即使大賢如梁啟超，亦採而記之。至於粵曲曲詞，使用方言俚語本屬常態，詞曲由宋及元，口語詞都是亮點之一。反觀今時流行的粵曲曲詞，大多了無聞味。令人徒生鄉音盡改之嘆。好端端將“點解呢”寫成“這是怎麼一回事呀”——不是在聽大戲，是在看冰山上的來客了。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3391 ) 日期：2013/06/27 14:19 留言者：辛奇士 清朝广东有个诙谐诗人何淡如。佢有首《乌江》诗，啜核兼工整： 又高又大又嵯峨，死到临头重唱歌。 三尺锋芒犀利剑，八千靓溜後生哥。 既然凛趸称皇帝，何必频轮杀老婆？ 若係乌江唔锯颈，汉兵追到屎难疴！ 至俗复至雅，极品！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3392 ) 日期：2013/06/27 14:19 留言者：TL 手機兄：kc此聯係笑個D因詞害意，寧可狗屁不通都要逐字對番正者。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3393 ) 日期：2013/06/27 14:24 留言者：Hawaiian 從網上copy過來 何淡如题撰联 上联：四面云山谁做主？下联： 一头雾水不知宗。 ——何淡如撰以广州方言俗谚对唐诗（无情对） 上联：周身花，果然好样；下联：一肚草，格外大 何淡如作品 声。 ——何淡如题阴历二月的土地诞辰节 上联：打鼓打锣，不过戥人高兴；下联：搬埕搬塔，总之自己破财。 ——何淡如自撰嫁女门联 上联：打鼓打锣，不过赠人高×兴；下联：搬埕搬塔，总知自己退×财。 ——何淡如撰婚、嫁联 上联：扒扒扒扒扒扒扒扒扒，扒到龙门三级浪；下联：唱唱唱唱唱唱唱唱唱，唱出仙姬七姐词。——何淡如又题端阳节赛龙船和搭棚唱戏 上联：新相识，旧相识，青宵有约期方值，试问今夕何夕？一样月色灯色，该寻觅； 　下联：这边游，那边游，风景如斯乐末休，况是前头后头，几度茶楼酒楼，尽勾留。 ——何淡如题广东省佛山春色赛会 何谈如撰挽联 上联：公乃岭表英才，可惜奋翮来酹，铁血已凝珠海石； 　下联：我亦国民分子，自愧穷途辍学，灰心羞谒岘山碑。 ——何淡如挽冯如 上联：殉社会者诚甚易，殉工艺者则尤难，一霎坠飞机，青冢那堪埋伟士； 　下联：论事之成固可嘉，论事之败亦可喜，千秋留实学，黄花又见泣秋风。——何淡如再挽冯如 何淡如合撰、应对联 上联：止渴调羹，梅全文武；（宴主人） 下联：行腔警世，鸡唱悲欢。——何淡如应对宴中主人 粤语谐联 上联：猪北窦。 下联：蔡西湾。 注：何淡如与其师蔡西湾一同出游到一个名叫‘猪北窦’的地方去。途中无聊，蔡西湾即以对对子作为消遣。他‘猪北窦’为上联。何淡如即答道：‘蔡西湾。’蔡西湾一听，哑然失笑，因为没想到何淡如会用自己的名字作答。细一想，他连连夸赞何淡如对得好。因为‘猪’的谐音是‘朱’，‘朱’也是一姓，正与‘蔡’相对。‘北’和‘西’都是方位词，也相当。‘窦’是‘洞’的意思，正与‘湾’对仗。以人名对地名，对得如此工整又如此滑稽，实在难得。 上联：鼠眼蛇头卖菜仔； 下联：鸡毛猪鬃换花生。 注：何淡如有一次和他的老师去赶集，看到一个卖菜的小贩，正东张西望，觉得可笑，就随口吟了上联。何淡如环顾四周，触景生情对出了下联。 鸡毛猪鬃换花生是指古时有人以花生换取鸡毛猪鬃做笔的材料，如现在游街串巷收购破烂一样。又如黄宏的小品《鸡蛋换大米》一样。 上联：一拳打出眼火， 下联：对面睇见牙烟。 注：此乃何淡如运用广州方言的口语涉趣成联的典范——似随口说出，然却为两人打架、满座哗然的生动记述：让人如见其形，如闻其声！下联之“牙烟”，粤语作“危险”解。何大师此即景即兴急就章，料因来不及推敲已传开，故上联音步字应平却仄，“出”字欠谐，但只好作罢。若“打出”说成“打标”则声韵协调——粤语有“眼火标烟”俗语，在汉语中亦具动词功能。 上联：老插到来，总之办蟹； 下联：小娘经过，切莫炒虾。 注：“老插”，即插手、扒手。“办蟹”，绑蟹。喻五花大绑盗贼。“炒虾”，粤语类似“他妈的”骂人话的谐音。是联平白如话，“俗”得可爱！ 上联：立刻捉拿三只手； 下联：几时失过一条毛。 注：这是他对古时更夫尽忠职守的褒扬。“三只手”，即小偷。“三、一”，“手、毛”，相对者正是数字和身体器官。 编辑本段何淡如对联轶事 何淡如嫁女联 何淡如嫁女，自撰谐联一副： 打鼓打锣，不过戥人高兴； 搬埕搬塔，总之自己破财。 “戥人高兴”是广东俗话，“戥”字读如“邓”，有“陪”和“增”的意思在内。“搬埕搬塔”也是广东俗话，“埕”和“塔”本是指一般“杂物”，但在此处，则是指送给女儿的“嫁妆”了。此联是颇能道出做“外父”的心情的，一笑。 其他轶事 他还有几副写得颇为趣怪的杂联，一并录下： 水手落水，水鬼拉住水手手； 火头吹火，火星飞上火头头。 “火头”即广东话的厨子。 广东人喜欢吃狗肉，由来已久，虽然始于何时，难以稽考，但在何淡如的怪联中，就有一副是写吃狗肉的，联云： 狗仔煨浓，巧笑倩兮穿黑服； 虾公蒸熟，鞠躬如也着红袍。 “煨浓”，是烧焦了的意思。“巧笑倩兮穿黑服”是形容“狗仔煨浓”之后“依起棚牙”的形状。“鞠躬如也着红袍”则是形容“虾公蒸熟”之后的弯腰形状。这副对联可说是写得很“形象化”的。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3394 ) 日期：2013/06/27 15:10 留言者：Hawaiian 突然想起一聯,傳是何淡如所撰. 命苦不如趁早死 家貧無奈作先生 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3395 ) 日期：2013/06/27 15:36 留言者：guan TL， 梗系唔系呆大意啦，呆不知几细心，你估呆姓什么？有姓你叫，一眼关七呀！ 边个话间关消息一定是怀人之句，唔可以理解成自况的吗？岭外音书绝是自况之语还是怀人之句？是呆大意还是你先入为主，自以为是？你讲呆唔讲！ 又间关虽可以作形容词用，但本义是名词，斟唱本义是动词，合起来可作名词用，但似乎唔系形容词咯，所以你的颈联还是不工整，不过这不是大问题，重点是对句不理想，要斟酌重写，这里对仗工整与否反不是问题了。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3396 ) 日期：2013/06/27 15:59 留言者：辛奇士 TL兄: 口语有今古，文握笔、武舞刀；合时合角方是好。唔少老倌唱曲，系古雅曲辞中擅自加插现代俗语，与时代、角色格格不入，破坏了整篇作品既完整性。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3397 ) 日期：2013/06/27 16:18 留言者：寸草心 明白辛兄焦慮,眼見朝綱將塌,故率先疾呼,以挽狂瀾罷! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3398 ) 日期：2013/06/27 16:30 留言者：TL guan:我沒有說過此詩的對仗是工整的。kc兄說頷聯不工整，我只是說對仗有工對也有意對，（即係話不是工對啦）。 詩無定解，解得通就是，你的解釋當然通。站在作者的角度，我倒希望能寫得模糊些朦朧些。 說你粗心一語，我收回。是我先入為主了。但詩是我自己寫的，先入為主不可免。 你有我的電郵地址，對此詩尚有何高見，請寄到我郵箱。 這個討論很有意思，可惜這裡是粵曲論壇，還是討論粵曲好。詩的論爭，先擱下了。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3399 ) 日期：2013/06/28 08:37 留言者：辛奇士 寸草心兄： 小弟无力挽狂澜，不过愿做防火砖，等的火无咁快烧到埋身咁o者。记得好多年前，香港有两份中资报同上边睇齐，改印简体字。点知香港人抵制佢地唔买，最後死死气改番繁体字。拿，上边我地影响唔到既勒；唯有力保香港呢块福地，边个落黎乱卖声一於闹爆佢！想揾食自然局住改。苏春梅、蒋文端、李翠翠等系香港都系唱港式喇！即如D深圳乐师，好多本来剩系识睇简谱；香港曲友死都揸住工尺谱。老细话事，乐师一系学识睇，一系返乡下。人系灵长类之最，为开饭无话唔掂既！

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