粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2303 ) 日期：2013/04/12 00:56 留言者：麥友成 講開老三真係服佢,鼓味腔硏究發燒友,開檔粤曲都揀在豉油街開,哈哈哈!!! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2304 ) 日期：2013/04/12 01:09 留言者：老三 國內的粵劇專門院校，由五幾年白駒榮執掌校長開始，至今都半世紀有多了。其間除了文革十年，國內粵劇粵曲也興旺至八十年代末才漸走下坡呵。這興旺中的幾十年，敢問國內的粵劇專門院校又培養出那些青出於藍的人才呢？尤其是男平喉，全都是由解放前(有粵劇專門院校前)的名家老倌雄霸至今！粵劇專門院校"培養"出來的尖子也只懂唱全無韻味的大陸腔，不是制度出了問題，又是什麽原因呢？鐵一般的事實，不去面對而指東說西去解釋，是助毀而非助成呵。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2305 ) 日期：2013/04/12 08:33 留言者：麥友成 代溝!老一軰懷舊觀念,觀賞的角度仍然定睛往昔,新人新曲總不啱味, 若然新曲新人真的一無是處,怎還可以大行其道,或許三四十年後,經曲名册都是這些不如上代的新人。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2306 ) 日期：2013/04/12 10:41 留言者：Kc 早晨！早晨！ 新的一天！保持愉快心情，繼續談曲論藝！ 新不如舊乃老餅正常心態！冇得改嘞！ 但曲壇近年也不乏新曲湧現！ 多產作家有方文正先生和陳錦榮小姐！ 哈哈！談新曲！ 有排講咯！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2307 ) 日期：2013/04/12 10:52 留言者：寸草心 KC兄，早晨! 我中意小宴，你更加啦! •••••方文正。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2308 ) 日期：2013/04/12 16:46 留言者：Kc 寸兄：小宴自然鍾意啦！ 近期也學了多支新曲！ 最新學緊錦江詩魂！ 泣血水繪園成了今期現代戲曲流行龍虎榜榜首！小弟都操過多次！ 秋月照離人，林家寶唱到難聽到死，都排第二！ 血濺未央宮，排第六！ 呢D小弟都學過，操過！ 咪話新嘢冇好！ 大佬！仲唱胡不歸？迫媳？而家唔虐老算你好彩啦！ 唐婉？迷信要離婚？唔俾祈福黨呃算條老嘢好彩啦！ 孔雀東南飛？點投入呀？而家仲有D咁嘅事咩？ 好心唱D新D嘢啦！ 不過D新作曲家又係抵俾人鬧！ 又係微之薛乜！又係唐婉碌油！又係..... Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2309 ) 日期：2013/04/12 13:29 留言者：小李 電郵：Floweregg@gmail.com KC兄，俾你笑死我！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2310 ) 日期：2013/04/12 14:45 留言者：辛奇士 有一句说话，就系过得人过得自己，即系话标准要统一至可以服众。如果话大陆剧校无出人材，咁香港呢？系，演艺办粤剧训练班只有几年，但八和办既都有三十几年啦，有无出过比大陆更好既老倌？香港出过边位有名既当唱香港腔？比较有名既本地老倌、唱家如阮兆辉、尹飞燕、南凤、张琴思、罗秋鸿、郑华安、陈曼虹等都花甲过外喇！香港文武生如果有劲料，梁兆明、李秋元点会落黎呀又？ 小弟想粤剧粤曲的滑坡，社会因素是主，守旧是次。而家真系无通宵排队、做一台戏买一叠楼个支歌仔唱。天才从来有，只是他们去了其他行业。守旧就系我後生时个班叔父乜都好，後来既就乜都唔好。守旧就系无创新、食老本。粤剧若守旧就无平子喉。薛觉先当年引入西乐、北派、立体布景是离经叛道的、冒险的；但是他成功了！如今这些又成了牢不可破的传统了！还有一个因素限制了新唱腔的诞生，就是粤曲板式的规范。上世纪二十年代末改唱白话平喉後，有如发现了新能源，此後三十年新腔(特别是平喉)风起云涌，精彩缤纷。然而此後趋於沉寂，何解？因为梆簧格式没有扩容，即是说没有新能源，而现有能源又渐趋枯竭。小弟对国内推崇美声唱法抱平常心。现在看来这新能源热能不大，且有些污染，但不至一无是处。至少其科学练声法是可取的，唔通仲要顶竹升咩？拿，大家钟意红线女系香港既录音其实系带美声的，只不过运用适宜，不害反帮。她後来美声越来越重，粤曲味也就越来越少了。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2311 ) 日期：2013/04/12 16:06 留言者：老三 沒有國內的粵劇專門院校出現，就沒有普遍地占領了國內重點粵劇團主角席位，卻大都是唱大陸腔的文武生的情況出現。擺明是學習和傳承上走入了歪路。 香港再沒人材，但自由競爭下，也不見到滋生出如此脫粵脫韻的唱腔呵。 小弟講的是唱腔上的問題，並非討論粵劇市場，或今古誰優的問題呵。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2312 ) 日期：2013/04/12 17:17 留言者：AA 回覆#2280 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2313 ) 日期：2013/04/12 17:33 留言者：麥友成 照計剩齋唱比做戲容易,可能是以前音響冇咁好,甚至乎冇,要日嗌夜嗌練大聲,果種聲就叫做大戲聲? Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2315 ) 日期：2013/04/12 18:59 留言者：辛奇士 三哥： 黎骏声、蒋文端、苏春梅都系广东粤剧学校出身的。小弟认为佢地系有声又有味，位列小弟平喉十八罗汉同子喉十二金钗之内。香港曲迷亦好受。另外现在香港既林颖施系佢地既师妹，仲罗过四洲杯冠军添。如果您认为佢地唱野唔得，唔使拗，不如听吓其他网友既评语啦。

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