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粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一)
日期:2015/04/26 22:55
留言者:KC

(微笑) (微笑) (微笑)通常網上討論,好易談興正濃離了題!又來不及去談天說地版設題!不如就開個廣濶的題目!
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2217 )
日期:2013/04/04 23:40
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)唱粵曲,想留名?還不容易?

君不見D龜瘦唱家,出隻碟!打上操曲流行榜!

成了榜上名人啦!

最近四一全世界歌迷紀念張國榮!

還不留芳百世? (表情33) (表情33) (表情33)

想遺臭萬年就冇咁易了!

最近有條𡃁,殺咗老豆老毋,雪櫃藏頭!

相信不過幾日,大家連佢係乜水都冇興趣知了!

所謂無才不足以濟奸!

曹操?秦檜?汪精衛?

你估易做牙?

正如做粵劇,做個梅香,都冇咁易噃!

紮到做紅伶,都算不易了! (表情34) (表情34) (表情34)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2218 )
日期:2013/04/05 07:47
留言者:tt

凡腔其實好好聽,三柱香••••真係冇乜人唱得番。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2219 )
日期:2013/04/05 08:12
留言者:辛奇士

tt曲友:

凡哥应该对喃呒腔有深入研究,耐不耐整几句。唔识既叫呢的做闲腔。梗唔系喇!闲腔边有咁撩耳呀?

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Kc兄:

留芳定遗臭有时都系一念之差。汪精卫当年行刺摄政王几咁英雄呀!被捕後仲留下绝命诗:莫负少年头!慈禧怜才无杀佢至有日咁多事o者。若使当年身便死,是非曲直有谁知?做汉奸前佢都做到国民党老二喇!权力欲太大害左佢。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2220 )
日期:2013/04/05 10:39
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)早晨!早晨!

繼續衝六萬關!

講番粵曲粵劇,以往戲行俾人睇少!

因為戲子無行!食鴉片大不乏人!又多桃色事件!

師徒合約就嚇死人!

師傅有D就好變態!

近代雛鳯都聽講有約一結婚就要離開!

藝術駛唔駛唔結婚至練得成呢?你估練童子功咩!

班人都唔知點諗者也! (表情19) (表情19) (表情19)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2221 )
日期:2013/04/05 09:58
留言者:老樹

>> 回應 ( No.2219 ) 留言

辛兄:

宣統繼位,攝政王主政時,慈禧太后已歿;赦汪精衛者,攝政王也。

老樹

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2222 )
日期:2013/04/05 11:36
留言者:kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)
汪精衛是清末民初推翻滿清的重要人士。當其時宣統皇帝三歲即位,汪精衛暗殺清廷攝政王載灃失敗,在獄中作詩《被逮口占》(又名《慷慨篇》)。
銜石成痴絕,滄波萬裡愁;孤飛終不倦,羞逐海鷗浮。
姹紫嫣紅色,從知渲染難;他時好花發,認取血痕斑。
慷慨歌燕市,從容作楚囚;引刀成一快,不負少年頭。
留得心魂在,殘軀付劫灰;青磷光不滅,夜夜照燕台。
汪精衛的名字出自成語〝精衛填海〞,意思是不屈不撓、鍥而不捨,其中精衛是一種會銜石填海的小鳥。詩中前四句就是描寫〝精衛填海〞。詩中最豪壯的四句是
慷慨歌燕市,從容做楚囚;引刀成一快,不負少年頭。
這四句詩曾經鼓舞了多少的青年,終於導致改帝制為民主。汪精衛也很幸運,因為當時清廷攝政王載灃並未殺他。後來汪精衛在抗日戰爭前甚至做到行政院院長。
抗日戰爭初期,中(華民)國的軍隊完全不是日軍的對手,只能退守,以空間換取時間,保存命脈。
不知為何,汪精衛居然投降日本,並在南京成立偽政權。汪精衛於1944年11月10日死於日本,臨終前作《絕命詩》自嘲:
心宇將滅萬事休,天涯無處不怨尤。
縱有先輩嘗炎涼,料無後人續春秋。
汪精衛死後葬在南京中山陵旁,棺木由厚厚的水泥覆蓋保護。抗日戰爭結束,工兵用炸藥將其墳墓炸開,棺木被送入焚化爐,骨灰被風吹散。卻應驗了其詩的最後四句:
留得心魂在,殘軀付劫灰;青磷光不滅,夜夜照燕台。
後人有詩感嘆他少年時謀刺攝政王被執,該死而未死,到了晚年反賣國求榮:
昔年慷慨歌燕市,今日投降作楚囚。

早能引刀成一快,何嘗辜負少年頭。

〝不負少年頭〞,多麼豪氣干雲的宣告,在人生的道路上,愛人、愛家、愛國,不負少年頭。
kc 按: 此文從網上找來, 此事告訴我們:

吹得太大!晚節不保!能不慎哉?
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2223 )
日期:2013/04/05 12:10
留言者:kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)大家得閒讀首詩!


白居易:放言

贈君一法決狐疑,不用鑽龜與視耆。

試玉要燒三日滿,辨材須待七年期。

周公恐懼流言日,王莽謙恭下士時。

向使當時身便死,一生真偽復誰知。


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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2224 )
日期:2013/04/05 14:17
留言者:guan

K师兄,

不谈粤曲,同你讲下历史.

汪精衛是否汉奸似乎尚未有定论,所谓一生真偽復誰知。用常理推敲,王莽謙恭下士時,即收买人心,醒些少个乜谁都会,可引刀成一快就唔易做到啦,揾命博,重系九百九十九倍大冷门,(所谓九百九十九倍其实唔止架,计算机只得三位数字显示而已!)乜谁会做呢?

进一步讲,汪精衛为何要做汉奸?为名、为利定系为权?看来通通都不成立,名利权他早就有,反为唔做汉奸可以做老大,做了汉奸只能做细佬,宁为鸡口,莫为牛后的道理难道汪不懂?人家有勇有谋有才有魄力,普通人都懂的道理他会不明?呆看未必!

左看右看都看不出汪精衛似汉奸,一个咁有才华,咁有气节的俊彦点做得出咁愚蠢的事?

佢首《絕命詩》,你话佢自嘲,呆就睇唔出边道有自嘲的成分,反为末句:縱有先輩嘗炎涼,料無後人續春秋。念来明显是自叹而不是自嘲,真要研究诗句是否有嘲笑的成分,纵然有,但对象不似是他自己,而是后世人啊!

辨材須待七年期,可历史定论须待几多年?七十年?重未够呀,或者两个七十年就庶几近矣!

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2225 )
日期:2013/04/06 01:02
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)難得關兄肯回應!

歷史人物隨時代可能會有不同看法!

此乃一大題目!

以前冇維基解密!很多事說也說不清!

正呀是:一生真偽有誰知?

吹水渡日有kc! (表情23) (表情23) (表情23)

隨意回應可也!小弟對事對物都冇乜成見!只是間有偏見! (表情34) (表情34) (表情34)

為免離題,南方衛視正播緊近代史粵劇!

孫中山與宋慶齡!

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2226 )
日期:2013/04/05 21:14
留言者:辛奇士

老树兄:

多谢纠误。真相无从知。小弟估计摄政王不杀汪精卫是想增加与革命党谈判筹码。自慈禧死後清庭已无揸弗人,起义风起云涌,留条後路亦人之常情也。

在未有确切翻案政据之前,小弟相信汪精卫乃是大汉奸。在投日之前,汪与蒋权力斗争已落下风,因为他没有掌握军队。倘留在国府内他只有被囚、被杀、下野三途。权力腐蚀意志,古今中外例子太多了。南京伪政府是什么回事?他们就是帮助日本占领军残害中国老百姓!伪军就是帮助日本军杀害中国军队!在开启太平洋战场後,日本无力增兵中国战场。没有汪伪政府,沦陷区只能是军管,即是说要动用更多兵力。再设想几百万伪军都在抗日,日本人何能统治大半个中国?汪精卫早死是幸运,否则他的下场一定比伏法的一批马仔如周佛海等更惨。他的绝命诗只看到欲盖弥彰四个字。曲线救国从来只是汉奸的遁词,救国只有抛头颅、洒热血。若汪等是对的,则浴血奋战的中国军民是错的。他们早应放下武器来做顺民、亡国奴,以遂日本军国主义者三个月亡中国的春秋大梦?!

Kc兄;

您引个首诗作者系白居易定王安石?

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2227 )
日期:2013/04/05 21:03
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)應該係白居易!

放言詩之三啩?

仲有幾首,都係說教的!

好啱吹水之人引用! (表情23) (表情23) (表情23)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2228 )
日期:2013/04/05 23:42
留言者:guan

哎,呢粒金山橙真恶哽!真要将佢揸汁至饮得落肚。

冇错啦,曲线救国是很多汉奸的遁词,特别是一般贪生怕死之徒,但系汪精卫证明咗佢唔系贪生怕死之辈,佢话曲线救国系咪应该具说服力好多呢?

汪精卫为乜要做汉奸先?为权?

OK,话佢被权力欲腐化咗,唔能够完全否定此观点,不过可能性好低咯,佢投日前,又唔系好似老毛咁上过最高位置,享受过绝对的权力后跌翻落黎,又点会咁容易沦为绝对的腐化呢?

好啦,就算那时汪与蒋权力斗争已落下风,汪没有掌握军队,但系都唔能够咁武断批死汪倘留在国府内只有被囚、被杀、下野三途,而被逼投日去反扑老蒋。那个年代,兵权并不是最重要,个人形象同魅力更煞食,孙中山先生也没有军权,手握全国重兵的是袁大头,可孙一样做到临时大总统,如果不是孙先生顾念蒼生退让给袁大头,谁能说孙先生不能名正言顺坐正,就算袁大头拥兵造反就一定能推倒孙先生?事实上孙先生退让了总统位给袁大头,三年后袁大头想复辟称帝,当时无权无势的孙先生只需振臂一呼,就得到全国各地军民的响应,用不了半年手握全国兵权的袁大头就要退位,证明了当时所谓掌握军队不是最关键的因素,个人形象同魅力才是。

讲魅力,汪是公认的美男子,蒋的款则是着起龙袍都唔似太子,说两者是云泥之别也不为过吧。
论形象,汪是民族英雄,早已深入民心,蒋则靠站在孙的身旁拍了一张照片而走红上位,可说到底不过是孙的跟班,二人的形象孰高孰低,不言而喻。

汪要获得最高权力就真的只有投日一途? (表情36) 欠点说服力咯!

理性分析,汪投日没有获得什么个人好处,根据他以往的事迹,说他曲线救国不无道理,反为把汪定性为汉奸老蒋就获益最大了。明白这道理,就不会奢望有人会给汪平反,因为老蒋现在虽然死了,可他的余孽势力还在啊,所以呆说要再等个七十年才能定论,到时候,呆再揾你沙尘一番,好吗? (表情23)

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