粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
任大家隨意發揮吧！ (表情33)
（出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1484 )
日期：2013/02/04 21:57
留言者：寸草心

擦身而过!................ (表情16)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1485 )
日期：2013/02/04 22:30
留言者：Tommy

極贊同辛兄#1477論述。但現時大部份新曲都於二王、中板，慢板處配上工尺，將唱腔定性了；近乎小曲。減弱了梆黃的靈活性。
(表情26) (表情21)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1486 )
日期：2013/02/04 22:53
留言者：辛奇士

Tommy曲友：

有工尺的曲纸颇受一般初学、玩乐曲友、乐师与导师的欢迎；因为上手快，亦因为基功差。即食面落滚水一渌就食得，使乜学烹调？好唔好食？而家追新族唔讲亦唔识分味道，最紧要食得多、食得快、容易食。奈何！唔系夸大，如果识度腔至可以教曲，就唔会而家刭处都系人之患喇！ (表情28)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1487 )
日期：2013/02/04 23:15
留言者：寸草心

"有的人唱粤曲如唱时代曲" : "晴天開朗,月正起東方.推窗望銀漢,心情多欢暢.............." (表情34)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1488 )
日期：2013/02/04 23:52
留言者：辛奇士

寸草心兄：

您呢支系冼剑丽既《一缕柔情》，伴奏系西乐。上世纪五六十年代曾经系夜总会流行一时。而家好少人唱咯。
(表情7)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1489 )
日期：2013/02/05 00:09
留言者：寸草心

又考唔倒果个粤曲百科! (表情29)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1490 )
日期：2013/02/05 01:37
留言者：Kc

(大笑)

唱粵曲的基本要求是：

聲清；氣足；字正；腔圓；板準；情到；音啱！‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧

仲有乜要求呢？

聲；色；藝。俱全 ‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧

點至可以做得倒呢？

天賦果D問亞媽‧‧‧‧‧‧‧

要學果D問師傅‧‧‧‧‧‧

要練果D睇自已‧‧‧‧‧‧

(表情33)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1491 )
日期：2013/02/05 03:08
留言者：TL

(拍掌)
kc兄云：
唱粵曲的基本要求是：
聲清；氣足；字正；腔圓；板準；情到；音啱！‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧
管見以為板準、音啱二項應放首位並與其它幾項分列。聲清氣足等等是唱得好不好的標準。板準音啱則是及不及格的標準。對業餘唱家而言，標準不妨放寬，主次順序不能亂。音準時值是基本的基本。
(表情29)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1492 )
日期：2013/02/05 03:27
留言者：四姑娘

現在粵曲也流行中西樂合奏。懂中樂的還可以做到追腔，只懂西樂的就無計。唯一可以令全棚樂師一致，和諧，就出現全曲譜以音符，並且用通行用簡譜。

初學者比較喜歡有譜曲，穩陣。想發揮自已行腔的就不大喜歡。

曾經在一個救災演唱慈善會上，有位捐款者演唱一支曲，頭架是一位近百師傅，唱的講明全曲照正曲紙，誰知那位師傅啋你都傻，只管自已拉自已的，又唔望又唔理！

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1493 )
日期：2013/02/05 09:46
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 早晨！早晨！

做咗一哥的早晨，特別醒神！

板準，音啱是唱歌及不及格的標準！

合拍，是同人溝通合作之本！

唱歌耍拍合，所以要拍子一致，方能成事！

跳舞仲緊要，因兩人相擁，動作不一致，就一定跳唔成！

但拍子，係唔係要準到拍子機咁，一下一下，一成不變呢？

初學的朋友，老師一定教你用手一嘢一嘢數住！

此乃拍子初堦吧了！

其實玩到咁上下，拍子只是要同人合拍就掂矣！

點解咁講？

唱粵曲，個度係你開嘅！趨快趨慢由唱口話事！

咁即係可快可慢，快慢由人啦！

唱到拍在心中！就天下無敵啦！ (表情23)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1494 )
日期：2013/02/05 10:10
留言者：辛奇士

四姑娘曲友：

愚见：不是中西乐问题，是粤曲伴奏在中西乐器的基础上仲要另学指法，特别是乙反音。有料既师傅兼要熟腔，咁任唱口点去都跟到；正系孙悟空跳不出如来佛祖既五指山也。粤乐四大天王之首尹自重就系玩梵铃既。粤乐小弟系门外汉，还请专家如TL兄等来解说罢。

强宾不压主，绿叶不遮花。乜野叫做伴奏呀？梗系兜搭唱口（通常系出资人）啦。不过真见过有少数师傅想骚哥利，不理唱口死活，猛加花，企唔稳畀佢玩死！呢的所为叫做无衣食，几叻都无用，梗系避之则吉啦！

(表情12) (表情37)

TL兄的排列序是行家之言，佩服！

(好!) (拍掌)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1495 )
日期：2013/02/05 10:22
留言者：TL

(好!) (好!) (好!)
如果要大家合拍，必須有個雙方都可以遵守的標準。這個標準就是拍子機，或指揮，或掌板師傅。但是跟著拍子機唱粵曲是不可能的，因為要唱好一首曲，節拍會隨著情緒的起伏而有所變化。前一種節拍是機械節拍，是技術基礎；後一種是感情節拍，是藝術演繹。雖然略顯自由，仍以機械節拍為依據，不會太離譜。至於滾花木魚之類的散板，是自由拍子，基本上可以擺脫機械節拍的框架。

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