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粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）
日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) (微笑) (微笑)通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4663 )
日期：2013/10/05 10:10
留言者：辛奇士

今晚系咪旺角街唱期？

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4664 )
日期：2013/10/05 10:33
留言者：蛇仔明

真人真事真狗熊？

有条牙擦佬出骚唱《琴挑》。谂住扬威请左几个前辈来听。宵夜果阵好高兴咁问一位前辈唱成点搏赞。个前辈话无左个琴。个唱口猛话：今次唱企咪用唔到个琴，下次揸咪彩唱加番弹琴造型就完美勒！前辈话：叻仔！於是宾主尽欢。

你地话有乜好笑呢呵？

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4665 )
日期：2013/10/05 11:12
留言者：呵呵

無咗個琴，當然得噃個“挑”字啦。挑........你話唱成點呢?



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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4666 )
日期：2013/10/05 12:46
留言者：KC

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)今日的確是旺角街唱之期！

可惜kc又因事缺席！sorry!sorry!

祝老三兄，joe兄，奀二爺，各友好，玩得開心D！

等住上網睇錄影！ (表情33) (表情33) (表情33) (表情33)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4667 )
日期：2013/10/05 14:19
留言者：辛奇士

Kc兄：

支持系要口水加行动既。您连续鸭肾左几剂咯噃！若果下个月再唔浦头，小弟就当您惊畀人弹，欢乐粤曲其实系自我粤曲架勒！独乐乐不如众乐乐吖麻。讲衰唔起风炉既风险大过晒我地喇！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4668 )
日期：2013/10/05 14:56
留言者：KC

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)隨緣啦！放下自在！

有時做人唔好事事孭上身！咁至歡樂吖馬！

街唱有老三兄，joe兄，奀二爺，各友好就成事嘞！

Kc精神支持，已是莫大支持！唱仲有大大可能趕客添！就當我不滿被人彈囉！

Kc肉體支持，直情不重要！

正吖是：知音如不賞！查的的撐！我就•••••••

歸臥••••••故山秋囉！

反而新凡風兄，唔到就會令好多擁躉失望嘞！

街唱主題曲邊個唱先？

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4669 )
日期：2013/10/05 17:56
留言者：寸草心

KC兄,街唱初期,十分需要支持带起个勢,功成身(暫)退! 智.仁.勇! (表情35) (大笑) (大笑) (大笑)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4670 )
日期：2013/10/05 22:05
留言者：KC

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)失禮！失禮！

小弟呢D拋磚引玉貨仔，即然有咁多珠玉在前！

仲點需要獻醜呢？

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何況咁啱，呢幾次真係次次事忙！

總之有空一定捧場！隨緣囉！

又唔駛搞到好似唔去就係冇雷氣咁！

小弟好有雷氣假馬！ (表情23) (表情23) (表情23) (表情23)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4671 )
日期：2013/10/05 23:06
留言者：麥友成

我撐完啦,在船上,忙了一天忘了午餐,差點泣血豉油街,拿拿臨買個义雞飯响碼頭狼吞虎嚥,舒服晒! (大笑)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4672 )
日期：2013/10/06 11:05
留言者：KC

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)早晨！早晨！

新的一天！又是賽馬天！

人生充滿希望！

記住歡樂粵曲！

咁就會經常保持歡樂嘞！

趙吖是！ (表情34) (表情34) (表情34) (表情34)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4673 )
日期：2013/10/06 16:06
留言者：TL

(微笑)
順著一家言新凡風二位大兄扯一扯雅與俗。
宋玉在《對楚王問》中將音樂藝術的境界分為四層：《下里巴人》、《陽阿》《薤露》、《陽春白雪》及沒有曲目的“引商刻羽雜以流徵”者。若以雅（高雅）俗（通俗）分，《下里巴人》是俗，《陽春白雪》及其以上可算是雅。《陽阿》《薤露》恐怕就歸於雅俗共賞的範圍吧。能與“引商刻羽雜以流徵”相和的人按宋玉所說的比例約是千分之一，在他眼中應是雅的最高境界了。其實還有一個將境界提升到極致的人當時還沒有出現，這個人就是目送飛鴻手撫無絃琴的陶潛。大音希聲：這個雅到極致的哲學美學觀點由老子提出來，陶潛將之以完全現代意義的行為藝術的方式完成之。這個境界理論上是存在的，不過能實踐成功的由古至今可能僅得李、陶二子，而且對粵劇粵曲的討論也沒有什麼意義。於此不論。
將卡在《下里巴人》與《陽春白雪》之間不上不下的《陽阿》《薤露》與雅俗共賞對應起來自是順理成章。將粵劇（曲）定位於這個層次，或者說從藝人員將之作為追求的最佳境界也未為不可。不過我認為尚有更深入探討的餘地。
雅俗共賞並不是由俗向雅的過渡階段，而是由雅向俗返璞歸真的另一個層次。是螺旋形轉了一圈之後再轉到對應於由俗到雅之間的一個點位，雖垂直於同一點，但實際上已提升了一個層面。這才是為識者所推崇的雅俗共賞。要而言之，雅俗共賞不是簡單地從通俗的層面拔高，而是站在雅的高度面向通俗的回歸。業者若不下此功夫，所謂粵劇（曲）藝術的提高只是失去方向的空談。
至於雅與俗、或者說藝術層次有無高下之分？我的總體看法是傾向於有。由簡單到複雜、由粗糙到精緻、由經驗到理論、由零散到體系，也就是由俗到雅、由低到高的過程。
粵劇（曲）是大眾的藝術，以通俗為原則，以雅俗共賞為標的。這一點我與一家言、新凡風二位網友的看法一致。想補充的一個意見是：通俗是主流但還要容納一些支流。追求高雅是其一，眾多撰曲者中有一兩個要玩高雅，提高曲詞的文學性，縱使曲高和寡，有益無害；避開鋪天蓋地的師奶局約三兩知音五架頭一曲梆黃幾個腔，別有一番滋味，懷舊之餘，傳統得延殘喘。對這種現象多點寬容與推廣，應有助於粵劇（曲）藝術的提高。
不覺扯到另一個有趣的話題，俗與雅不僅僅決定於曲本本身，還會受其它因素的影響。說一說我聽南音演唱的兩次經歷。第一次還是孩提年紀，一個瞽師，地點是鄉下家中的大廳，聽眾是祖母與幾個女鄰居加上我。另一次是六十多年後，聽盲仔祥，地點是夏威夷大學的音樂廳，聽眾是音樂系的教授、學生及一些有心人士。藝術形式沒有變，變的是時代、場合、聽眾的階層及審美目的。前者可視為俗（通俗），後者則成為一件雅事。
以上隨感得益於一家言及新凡風二位大兄之啟發，尚祈諸君賜正。 (表情33)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.4674 )
日期：2013/10/06 17:22
留言者：麥友成

藝術有層次之分不容置疑,感受人言人殊,藝技巧也,術學問也,有實在的是叫藝術品,活動的是動態藝術如戲曲是視聽藝術,藝術都是物以罕為貴,古董花瓶和汽水瓶也是藝術品,界線就在這裡。

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