粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3098 )
日期：2013/06/05 10:39
留言者：KK

　听来听去，论到现时的女平唱家，我都系中意梁玉嵘、何萍多点，讲到老一辈的女平唱家，就比较喜欢听李少芳、何丽芳、刘凤，再老一脱的就系当年的四大平喉。至于叶幼×、陈玲×，实在不感冒。无他，我觉得二人声音无磁性，加上唱腔无乜韵味，而且有“女人声”。区区认为，这是听女平的一大忌。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3099 )
日期：2013/06/05 12:50
留言者：一丁

(大笑) 又各自表述一下。

單支曲重腔唔重情，小弟睇唔一定，又係要睇曲者功力。

新馬好多戲o既主題曲如啼笑姻緣，鳳燭燒殘…等，一個人唱哂，可以算係單支，聽來有腔有情；小明星、李向榮、鍾自強等…….好多名曲，唱來重腔更重情，單支曲內o既情，有時間比曲者慢慢逐寸鋪排，細緻內歛，聽者細聽便能感受。雖然小明星o既曲非小弟杯茶，但論情，佢有的曲，曲中情o既真實感，非梁能及也。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3100 )
日期：2013/06/05 17:30
留言者：辛奇士

歌伶有唱平喉，亦有唱子喉、大喉的；共通点系唱者大都系女人。点解系女人？歌坛客多系男人。歌伶除唱之外，仲要同熟客应酬。台上靓女唱平喉，台下要识放生电。丑女同男人无计。新马系老倌不入此范畴。李向荣系好野，但系唔红，因为佢系男人！

听小明星《秋坟》唱片，有腔欠情。她是多情种，其早逝亦与感情被骗有关。之所以唱来无情是与周郎的要求有关，他们的要求是新腔、新曲。重情的去睇大戏。小明星最把炮就是度腔能力。王心帆唔识乐理，只懂诗词入曲。小明星有办法将拗口字度顺，既露字又掩饰了气弱的短处。新凡风誉为曲艺一代宗师。何非凡唱腔受星腔影响颇深。梁玉嵘唱得再好也比不上小明星。小明星从无到有，开创了一个女平腔的主要流派。梁只是锦上添花而矣。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3102 )
日期：2013/06/05 17:25
留言者：辛奇士

Waterboat 曲友：

这是缩写法，誉是别人的赞赏。当然是誉她了。若是新凡风饮醉酒乱发自大狂，也应是被誉了。希！这里讲曲艺，小弟做乜系度咬文嚼字呢？自上三件！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3103 )
日期：2013/06/05 17:59
留言者：waterboat

辛兄：

我寫上文時基於一時衝動，未有細嚼文意，實屬魯莽，在此深表歉意。若有機會與兄相會，定必再次負荊請罪。

請繼續說說小明星，我頗感興趣但認識不深，衹在曲藝月刋閱讀過一二。

waterboat

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3104 )
日期：2013/06/06 09:39
留言者：辛奇士

Waterboat 兄:

小弟出世迟(虽已年过花甲)，对小明星印象模糊。只知她原名邓曼薇，三水人。好细个唱歌坛，红透港穗。1943年日军已占广州。为制造升平气氛，恢复歌坛。吴一啸力邀小明星复出，当时小明星已病重，抱病登台。《秋坟》唱至「三尺残碑」突呕血倒地昏迷，一代宗师，就此玉殒香消。年仅三十岁。三十岁咋，阴功！为此，吴撰《七月落薇花》悼念。小明星轶事，可参考容世诚著的《星韵心影》一书。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3105 )
日期：2013/06/06 01:00
留言者：waterboat

翻看雜誌後得知小明星有嫡徒陳錦紅。另外周雅頌、白鳳瑛、劉鳳等人亦是演唱星腔之表表者。至於陳玲玉與梁玉嶸則隨李丹紅學習星腔，後期陳玲玉再習徐柳仙腔，並曾灌錄＜再折長亭柳＞及＜紫坭留痕＞等曲目。葉幼琪則多次顆拍不同佬倌演譯以小明星為題材之舞台歌劇。
論其優劣，相信曲迷喜惡不盡相同，難有定論。若要揀選一位女平喉能獲得男女曲迷一致認同的話，這亳無疑問小明星定是其中一名侯選人。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3106 )
日期：2013/06/06 05:07
留言者：TL

(表情4)
如果女平冇嗮女人聲，還有女平存在的必要嗎？

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3107 )
日期：2013/06/06 08:38
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 早晨！早晨！

新的一天！向六條煙進發！

女平的存在，可能沿自歌伶啩？

而平喉，子喉，發聲方法不同！

有些朋友唱平喉，但不經意有子喉的影子！

相信就是平喉有雌聲的說法了！

至於有些女平，化了戱裝，唱來，看來，完全冇人會覺佢係女扮男裝！

任姐就係啦！

至於邊D女平唱來有雌聲！

一D學藝未精，又經常出騷D亞太，就常見嘞！ (表情34)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3108 )
日期：2013/06/06 09:43
留言者：辛奇士

平喉、子喉除了发声位外，尚有生理构造问题。一般女性声带窄而薄，利发高音不利发低音；男性则反之。所以唔系话想反串就可以反串，要睇下华光师父有无赏你食呢碗饭；睇吓声带同共鸣器官生成点。夹硬黎无话唔得，不过难听o者。女唱平比男唱子多。一来平喉除左最低子一般女性能到。男人去子喉高八度仲要莺声沥沥，好罗命。二来曲迷多女人，唔要女平好多局同骚开唔成。男人唱子岂不是抡埋女人本位？可怒也！梗奄尖喇。

歌伶既演绎就系中性，自有顾曲周郎。小弟认为女平有点雌声不是问题，最掉忌发声位变来变去，忽平忽子；再加埋兰花手、性感装就真系顶唔顺矣！无霸腔霸气就唔好骚武场勒。阿弥陀佛！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3109 )
日期：2013/06/06 10:04
留言者：TL

(微笑)
聽女平有聽女平的標準。
小明星的女人聲夠重，但人人都話佢好也，因為聽小明星時已經不自覺地用了不同於聽男平的標準。真要用同一標準的話，試想同樣腔口但冇嗮女人味，比如搵個大男人來唱，就剩得核突兩個字了。
我很喜歡聽黃少梅，她的風格也很女人化。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.3110 )
日期：2013/06/06 10:46
留言者：辛奇士

TL兄：

同意！物以类聚，唔钟意听女平既大部份系自以为是既男平！天外有天，艺术系可以从不同角度去欣赏既。

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