粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

(微笑) 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！
任大家隨意發揮吧！ (表情33)
（出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1580 )
日期：2013/02/09 20:26
留言者：Kc

(大笑) 剛剛食飽團年飯！

太飽冇力追！平日千零米都唔駛乜呌氣就追上！

嘩！大佬，客途秋恨乜乜盟？小弟聽都未聽過！

背得很！瘀爆！

不如今晩守歲！等財神好過！ (表情33)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1581 )
日期：2013/02/09 20:58
留言者：辛奇士

Kc兄：

多谢提点，谨向行过姐道歉。人老了，有时会胡涂。

世界真系好大，小弟只知冰山一小角。网站有规矩，不宜讲太多太深，食住一块水煮牛肉顶住肚先喇！
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1582 )
日期：2013/02/09 21:11
留言者：寸草心

正呀是:靈蛇出洞舒鱗莽;曲友登台洒花腔!
蛇年大吉! (表情22)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1583 )
日期：2013/02/09 21:36
留言者：路過

說到撰曲，現在的撰曲者所用的小曲用來用去離不開雙聲恨、昭君怨、禪院鐘聲等出名的十幾首音樂。

從前的廣東民間小調如十八摩、仙花調、玉美人、剪剪花，跳花鼓等等，現在都再不見有人利用了。

現在的新曲除了仍有梆黃和仍然用粵語演唱外，總是欠了一點道地的廣東味，看來不無原因。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1584 )
日期：2013/02/09 22:07
留言者：Kc

(表情7) 聽講粵曲包容性好大！乜都可入曲！

君不見𥺁台秋思，春江花月夜都係古曲填詞，成了名曲！

巫山一舊雲！係新撰之作！

近人連血染的風采也入曲！

出到跑馬溜溜的山上，堪稱一絕矣！ (表情33)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1585 )
日期：2013/02/09 23:50
留言者：有心人

　看了最近有关某公“改曲”的跟帖，“行过”先生说某公改别人的曲后只是“写明话”係“加词”，而辛奇士兄则认为此举近乎“偸嘢”，到底哪位说得更接近事实，套用一位伟人的名言是——事实胜于雄辩。查相关资料，卿叔是2003年去世的，距今快十年了。而由唐先生和香港唱家任太思原唱录音的《沈园题壁两断肠》，笔者查看了原装封套，上面注明是在广州中唱公司录音，由香港现代音像公司发行出版的。经中唱的录音师回忆说，这首曲录音时间约在六、七年前。笔者认真查看了包装封套，发现“曲目介绍”一栏中，赫然写着——《沈园题壁两断肠》（新词新腔版），唐健垣撰曲“——请注意，这里用的是“撰曲”，而不是行过先生所说的“加词”。这里，还有一个让人费解之处，就是在该曲的曲情介绍中，第一句话就是“取材自陈冠卿撰写之《沈园题壁》……中唱的那位经手录音的编辑说，既然此曲是在陈冠卿的《沈园题壁》上扩充而成，那么作者一栏理应注示：原作陈冠卿　扩写唐健垣。否则就有侵权之嫌，这是再明白不过的——既使唐先生曾付给卿叔一千元人民币。
　　据笔者所知，唐先生还将秦中英先生的平子喉对唱曲《寒江伤别》私下增删为《寒江诀别》，我问秦老前辈，唐先生是否有事先征得他本人的首肯，秦先生说他并不认识唐先生，更谈不上征得他本人同意，由唐先生代其操刀增删云云。听闻我说及有人将《寒江伤别》擅自增删为《寒江诀别》，秦老前辈大为愤慨，特让我代其表达个人意思——这样私自增删别人的作品，不仅是不道德的，而且是犯法的！而且他还说，他以前从未听卿叔说及收了香港谁谁的一千元，故而应允由别人增删修改他的粤曲作品。秦中英前辈说，别说是区区一千元，就是给他一万元，他也不会答允别人这样做！
　　从秦老前辈的维权表白中，我发现其中一个”时间差“的问题，既然是卿叔答允别人增删的，为什么《沈园题壁两断肠》在卿叔去世后才录音出版，这就难免别人会认为：当事人是否有意利用这个“时间差”呢？反正卿叔已经作古，到底有没有征得卿叔本人的同意，是不是用了一千元收购“增删权”，现今已经是死无对证，你说没有，我偏说有，你捉蛇咬我呀？
　　话说回来，教粤曲、写粤曲的都是吃五谷杂粮的凡人，并不要求他们成为流芳后世的道德楷模，但“君子爱财，取之有道”，起码不让人戳背脊骨，这应该是为人和为文的基本底线吧！打擦边球，出茅招，纵然混得一时，如何瞒得了一世？目下曲坛陋习不少：有知小小、扮代表的；有习非为是，欺世盗名的；有利字当头，党同伐异的；有游戏文章，舍本逐末的；有唯名唯上，趋炎附势的。凡此种种，不一而足。要振颓起衰，有赖同寅出以公心，扬清击浊，扶正祛邪，持之以恒，蔚成风气。
　　古语云“修身止谤”，如果真是有志弘扬粤曲艺术，就要行藏有则，不偏不倚，多做些实际有益之事，而别卖弄小聪明，行蝇营狗苟之事。惟其如此，曲坛幸甚。野人献芹，求其友声，如此而已。“有心”云云，其意在焉！

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1586 )
日期：2013/02/10 00:21
留言者：麥友成

(拍掌)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1587 )
日期：2013/02/10 00:26
留言者：辛奇士

众曲友：

有心人曲友既然敢指名道姓，并有物证、时证、人证；当事人唐先生是否应该在此捍卫他的清白？卿叔已是死无对证，但英叔还在，正好让广大曲迷知道真相。举一反三，《寒江伤别》与《寒江诀别》的互为关系足以反证其他。小弟并无倾向。惟是大是大非，决不容指鹿为马，颠倒黑白！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1588 )
日期：2013/02/10 03:21
留言者：四姑娘

講得好 (拍掌)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1589 )
日期：2013/02/10 08:02
留言者：黃早藍

大年初一,大家和諧,和諧,和諧

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1590 )
日期：2013/02/10 08:23
留言者：寸草心

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1591 )
日期：2013/02/10 08:57
留言者：辛奇士

众曲友：

清者当澄清，浊者自沉默；食葱送饭，稍待便知真伪也。正是：

玉龙未灭人间丑，金蟒难吞曲内情...哎吔！

恭喜发财！

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