粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2168 ) 日期：2013/03/31 10:40 留言者：Kc 辛兄：潮語係不可以用個人意志而轉移的！ 也不能因個人喜愛而要求別人改變的！ 否則就好易變成憤青了！ 一如憤青一詞，不會見人老，就改為憤老一樣！ 有時間，看看別人的說法！ 可能會另有體會呢！ 小弟細時，日本貨係渣嘢，易壞！的潮語 時至今日已冇人咁講了！ 大陸腔的出現，亦有類似背景！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2169 ) 日期：2013/03/31 12:58 留言者：LEN 爲何有聲無味道的叫“大陸腔”，大概是因爲這種唱法大多見於大陸的“專業人士”，可能是因爲當年粵劇改革的時候（樣板戲時代）大家喜歡用這種方法來唱，以後的訓練就循這個方向走了。這跟選人才重聲綫沒關係，主要是教學的方法，和在那個環境長大有関，身邊的“專業人士”都是用這個唱法，耳濡目染之下，大陸新一代的都是這樣唱。不要說到影響兩地情誼那麽嚴重。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2170 ) 日期：2013/03/31 22:35 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 小弟并无独我情意结，却有自省的习惯。然而，「自反而不缩，虽千万人，吾往矣。」数月来，小弟在此栏目下帖已过百，很多意见是与主流一致的，间亦有差异的；这都无所谓，曲艺是容许独立思考的。之所以一家言先生与小弟对「大陆腔」的定义误解，正由於没有参与众仁兄的大辨论(得闲会去睇)，误会遂不可免矣。点样计参予辩论又明解的只占五万多点击的少数。问题正出於此。愤青或愤老的特点是逢众必反，是少数逆多数，於此不适用。当年日本家电、继後韩国货，大家都用过，质素渣系有广泛共识的。字面敏感，点解唔用中性一的既呢？不过小弟向来尊重别人既意见。不如咁喇，您地继续用您地既潮语，小弟继续保留意见。求同存异，总之无伤和气咪得咯。 LEN兄： 如果叫做样板腔咪清楚罗！文革已结束了三十多年，国家社会生活发生了翻天复地的变化。与时并进，美声唱法(科学发声法是更准确的定义)若能与传统味道相结合，小弟赞成。味既保，声靓的有乜唔好？弊在重美声与传统粤曲韵味不相容。而省内文艺揸弗人多是老北，仲有女姐呢坐美声大山坐镇，难以逾越。我地系香港唱曲自己话事，可以拗颈反而系好事黎既。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2171 ) 日期：2013/03/31 15:07 留言者：Kc 喜見LEN兄又出現！ 上回大陸腔的辯論，似乎亦見LEN兄的足印！ 很多辛兄的疑惑，上回大辯論已講過！ 再講無謂！食多會滯！ 各有各說！存異求同是周總理教落同人溝通之道！ 識者自識！迷者自迷！ 青山遮不住！畢竟東流去！ 向六萬關進發！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2172 ) 日期：2013/03/31 18:04 留言者：寸草心 有謂藝術应有其獨立天地,与政治分離,這是中國人經歷过之教訓; 然而,在這土壤滋長的全部文化藝術都難以倖免刻有時代既烙印. 我等揮之不去之情結正是其餘音渺渺;大病初癒,副作用尚存. 是不是該抽出身來,以平常心,相濡以沫之情來論曲藝,以寄望來者可追焉! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2173 ) 日期：2013/03/31 21:51 留言者：Kc 今晚將會出現56789！的奇景！ 轉瞬即逝！ 留意！留意！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2174 ) 日期：2013/03/31 22:28 留言者：上中下 粵曲之妙處..........就是太情感喇.... 只要你對了她一有了情感.........(唱者)........其它全不入耳......理它什麼xxxxxx腔..... 但我總有一個看法.......... 若要所渭大陸腔者學唱港式唱腔......我看不用一天功夫....應絕對可以...也不會差到哪裡. 若相反.............哈... 哈... 哈... 大家想.....不知哪哩........ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2175 ) 日期：2013/03/31 23:33 留言者：寸草心 上曲友,愚見 " 港式唱腔 " 过去式冇乜边个跟得倒!....... E家似乎剩得个阮兆輝獨撑!.......不过佢D野都唔係少!.......用一天功夫!?..... Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2176 ) 日期：2013/04/01 00:05 留言者：花客留影 有曲友在看tvb的張國榮紀念音樂會嗎? 剛看到仙姐和寶珠也有出席 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2177 ) 日期：2013/04/01 01:07 留言者：Kc 剛看有缐電視重播毛毛訪問張國榮！ 佢地打牌一路唱粵曲！ 張國榮唱：霧月夜抱泣落紅•••••• Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2178 ) 日期：2013/04/01 03:01 留言者：細細粒 講嚟講去，藝術欣賞係主觀嘅！ 粤曲既然係一門藝術，當然容許主觀嘅愛惡！你鍾意你嘅，我鍾意我嘅！無所謂對錯！(大家互相尊重係最重要，既然"大陸"兩字令人感覺不好，就不用也罷！) 話雖如此，又似乎並非全無標準。如果我哋承認粤曲喺傳統藝術，佢特有嘅韻味(粤曲特有嘅音樂感)就係唔可以缺少！(正如依家好多新派粤劇，唔再講究做手，無水袖，無台步...，根本就唔應該叫做粤劇，至多叫佢哋做粤語歌唱劇。) 任何歌曲嘅悅耳與否，絶對關乎唱曲者嘅音樂感。唱粤曲似乎尤其須要！(好聲唔好聽嘅原因在此)所以每次聽到汪××唱粤曲都要關掉耳朶！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2179 ) 日期：2013/04/01 09:18 留言者：辛奇士 细细粒曲友： 同意您的看法。只想加一句：悦之耳，乃听者之耳；感之心，乃听者之心。故曲艺水准之提高，唱之外，欣赏更为重要；因为无买也就卖唔到矣。小弟坚信，粤曲基本的味与技的标准是可以达到共识的。前提是要抛开自我与偶像的羁绊，方可能听得进别人不同但有益的见解者也。

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