粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5650 ) 日期：2013/12/28 21:59 留言者：寸草心 唔係瓦!?......小弟全凭你兄台壯胆, 解畫!! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5651 ) 日期：2013/12/28 22:49 留言者：waterboat 你已做定熱身運動？但是否值得哩？適可而止。忍一時之氣就海濶天空，況且還有大量其它話題可討論，又或者聽聽粵曲俾自己一個愉快心情去迎接二零一四的來臨吧。轉話題.................. Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5652 ) 日期：2013/12/28 22:49 留言者：KC 欲言又止，可能台端因假日，年關，被人以此為藉口， 影響了收入吧？ 既是年關： 常道是：年年難過年年過！ 趙吖是！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5653 ) 日期：2013/12/29 00:42 留言者：老三 青玉案小姐和有相同问题的网友曲友,可否留下猫址，让老三私下回复这个问题呢？请谅老三改变主意，不打算公开讨论之前所承诺的问题了…。只要谁有兴趣询及老三曾经提及的问题，老三担保有杯讲杯有碟话碟，无意烂尾，老三修改承诺亦只是希望论事而不伤人而已。抱歉！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5654 ) 日期：2013/12/29 10:18 留言者：KC 早晨！早晨！ 新的一天！今日跑馬！ 請啦！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5655 ) 日期：2013/12/29 12:48 留言者：新凡风 应辛奇士曲兄要求，区区认为此栏点击率(电视台叫收视率)远远抛离其它栏目，有十大理由： 1.范围广阔任翱翔 2.互相尊重好商量 3.名家前辈赠食粮 4.栏主诙谐导有方 5.重实少捧正立场 6.有问有答不逞强 7.几位主言有份量 8.事事新鲜无冷场 9.叔父羊牯都无妨 10.拥趸遍布势无双 欲持续辉煌，必保上述因素！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5656 ) 日期：2013/12/29 12:51 留言者：蛇仔明 哗！将新兄既十大理由每点阐述有排讲，又何愁无话题呀？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5657 ) 日期：2013/12/29 15:15 留言者：霞霞 電郵：hymkasumi@gmail.com No.5655 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5658 ) 日期：2013/12/30 09:06 留言者：KC 早晨！早晨！ 新的一天！向易發易發易發進發！ 一年將䀆夜！萬里未歸人！ 一三年將䀆，一四年來臨！ 又一年了！ 不如唱番支：去年今日此門中，人面桃花相映紅！ 正吖是：人面今日依舊在！桃花依舊•••••••査•••的的•••的的•••撐！ 笑春風呀吔！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5659 ) 日期：2013/12/30 12:24 留言者：KC 「奉天承運，皇帝詔曰」 粵劇中，常常看到太監在宣讀聖旨的時候，總拿「奉天承運，皇帝詔曰」開頭。 其實這句話到明代開國皇帝朱元璋時才有，而且也不是這樣斷句的。 1368年，朱元璋在南京稱帝，造了一座富麗堂皇的宮殿，其中一座規模最大的朝會大殿，取名為「奉天殿」。 這是朱元璋和大臣們議事的地方。 為了向人們昭示他登上皇位是奉天的旨意，也就是進一步闡明自己做皇帝的「合法性」，他把手拿的玉圭也刻上了「奉天法祖」字樣，而且還寫了《禦製紀夢》一文，說自己夢遊天宮，見到了「道法三清」，紫衣道士授以真人服飾和法劍，為「奉天承運」找到了「事實根據」和「理論基礎」。 朱元璋便自稱「奉天承運皇帝」，所以他頒發的詔書前面都要加上「奉天承運皇帝」六字。 至於後邊的「詔曰」二字，是不能與「皇帝」斷在一起的。 也許是後人為了念得方便，便把「奉天承運皇帝詔曰」八個字從中間斷開，這就是粵劇中常說的「奉天承運，皇帝詔曰」了。 　　至於清朝仍然沿用明代的稱呼，是因為它也想表明清朝發祥地盛京也有「奉天府」，它的皇帝也是天命所係。 由此可知，明代以前用「奉天承運皇帝詔曰」這八個字，純粹是無稽之談。 KC: 資料是網上流傳﹔似是言之成理！ 唱戲之人, 習非成是！ 積習難番矣！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5660 ) 日期：2013/12/30 15:19 留言者：辛奇士 戏班积非成是多矣！另一错例系不论太后、皇后、宫主都自称哀家。禁宫内锦衣美食，复万人之上，何哀之有？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.5661 ) 日期：2013/12/30 16:02 留言者：KC 寡人’跟‘孤’ 寡人’跟‘孤’都是春秋戰國時期諸侯的謙稱（好像也有自稱”不穀”的？）。老子不是說：是以侯王自稱孤、寡、不穀。 此非以為本賤。 孤王就像自稱寡人的意思，說自已是寡德之人，其實只是為了表示自已謙虛愛才之意 寡人也是表示自謙之意，又或者是有無上的權力而有高處不勝寒之感， 所以自稱寡人 意思同〝孤王〞 而且孤王一詞本來就在戲曲上也有用到的 朕，秦始皇規定皇帝的自稱。 在先秦時，君主一般自稱「本王」，「孤」，「寡人」，而任何人包括普通百姓都可以自稱為「朕」，隨著秦朝建立，嬴政創立皇帝尊號，規定「朕」只有皇帝可以使用。這個制度從此一直流傳下去。 東漢末年，群雄爭霸，割據局面出現，曹操雖然也是魏的君主（魏王），但漢獻帝仍然在位（漢朝名存實亡），權利無邊的魏王曹操也只自稱「孤」或「本王」，沒有自稱「朕」，因為他沒有稱帝；而毫無實權的漢獻帝卻可自稱「朕」，因為他是皇帝。 我國最早的一部解釋詞義的專著《爾雅•釋詁》說：“朕，身也。”在先秦時代，“朕”是第一人稱代詞。不分尊卑貴賤，人人都可以自稱“朕”。據司馬遷《史記•秦始皇本紀》記載：秦嬴政統一天下後，規定：“天子自稱曰朕。”從此，一般人不能自稱“朕”了。 《現代漢語詞典》解釋“朕”，說：“秦以前指‘我的’或‘我’，自秦始皇起專用做皇帝自稱。”但是，這裡要做二點說明： 第一，“朕”作為第一人稱代詞，在先秦時代並不等於後世的“余”、“吾”、“我”之類的第一人稱代詞。正像顧頡剛、劉起紆兩位先生在《<尚書•湯誓>校釋譯論》指出的那樣：“朕——甲骨金文中都只作單數第一人稱領格（所有格），即‘我的’。”如：《書•舜典》：“汝作朕虞。”意思是： “你作我的掌管山澤的官員。”《大盂鼎》（金文）：“勿廢朕令”。意思是：“不要拋棄我的訓令。”《離騷》：“朕皇考曰伯庸。”意思是：“我的父親叫伯庸。“ 或許有人說，《尚書•湯誓》中有“朕不食言”。意思是：“我不會說話不算數”。許慎《說文•舟部》釋“朕”：“我也”。這些不都證明，在先秦朝代，“朕”也可以等同後世的“余”、“吾”、“我”嗎？我們認為，今本《尚書•湯誓》已非原汁，難免被後人攙假。秦火以後，僅憑西漢儒家學者伏生口授，打上漢代烙印是十分可能的。許慎是東漢人，他對先秦詞義的理解就更難確切了。 第二，“朕”字，自秦始皇開始為皇帝的專用詞，這是普通的情況，但有特例，那就是至尊若皇太後也可以自稱“朕”。例如《後漢書•和殤帝紀》：“皇太後詔曰：‘今皇帝以幼年，煢煢在疚，朕且佐助聽政。 ” 中國過去的皇帝自稱寡人，孤家，意思是我多麼孤單呀，沒有人理我呀；無非是虛假的謙虛，表示自己位高權重，無人能及。 英語的皇帝一詞是emperor。字母em是雇傭的意思，per是每個人，or是名詞的後綴，表示。。。。者。皇帝是給每個人打工的，多麼謙虛呀。 中國的皇后自稱哀家，意思是我多麼悲哀呀。 謙虛。英語的皇后是queen打撲克的疙瘩。 字母qu是一個挽著頭發的女人的象形，ee是眼睛，n是門。皇后只不過是一個看門的女人. 綜上分析可知，皇后自稱“哀家”就是悲哀的意思。 KC: 也是網上流傳的資料！可見網上高人何其多！ 哈哈！揾泥咁多料, KC算唔算有料呢？吓？

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