粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1568 ) 日期：2013/02/09 10:18 留言者：辛奇士 TL兄： 杨老师的名曲创作，灵感得自近代(入民国後)小说、电影者有一些。除兄所说者外，尚有《金枝玉叶》来自同名英文电影，《沈三白与芸娘》来自《浮生六记》等。小弟认为取近代题材系好事，事近情亦近，唔使靠估曾太祖公个阵时既社会礼教环境系点，同而家大缆都绞唔埋。近代既仲有潘一帆既《啼笑姻缘》，采自张恨水同名小说。好似仲有支同《家春秋》有关既曲，细节忘记了。《六号门之胡二卖仔》亦系近代背景。应该仲有其他..... Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1569 ) 日期：2013/02/09 14:52 留言者：发烧友 　撰曲之苦，莫苦于从浩如烟海的史料中发掘有价值的题材，然后如何谋篇布局，运用各种板腔和小曲，将一个故事展示出来。有一位高产的斫轮老手，就曾表示现时他怎样写不是问题，最头疼的是写乜嘢。有时想一个写作题材，真有江郎才尽之窘。所以有人求写曲，此老哥最兴说的就是“你话写乜嘢吧"，因可以入曲的题材几乎都写遍、写滥了。 　　好多年前，笔者听卿叔说过，行内某公在创作上最善于掠人之美，平时偶然茶叙，问起卿叔你最近想写什么，卿叔为人厚道，有意无意说出想写什么内容的曲或戏，我准备如何落笔云云，谁知讲者无意，听者有心，没几天某公的新曲便抢先“出闸”了！卿叔说冇想到我开山劈石，此公竟坐享其成。卿叔说这种啦渣手法，实为“文贼”。他要我以此为戒，有什么创作题材不要轻易公开。过去有“题好文一半”之说，意谓有了好的题目，文章便成功了一半。写曲也不外如是，能想到一个好题材、或者是一个编故事的好“桥”，这首曲往往也赢了一半。 　　大概因为写曲难，喜欢取巧的人便乐于坐享其成，以改别人的曲为能事，还美其名曰为“医曲”，别人的曲都有这样那样的毛病，都要经过阁下的修改才能点铁成金，其实这是最为同道中人不耻的。要说毛病，莎士比亚和鲁迅的经典作品也未尝不能挑出若干不足，但谁听说有人要“医”他们的文章的？文章是自己的好，这是中国文人的共识。你若然这此博学多才，你自己另写一首好了，反正这些粤曲作者署的是别人的名字，它有病冇病,干卿底事?! 寄语有“医曲”癖好的人，多尊重别人，不要做乞人憎的蠢事。如果真想在这方面有所作为，那就不要拿“别人的戨”做文章，真真正正啲起心肝，从一步一个脚印的原创做起，用心写一首百分百属于自己的粤曲！诚如辛奇士兄云，旧时行规绝不容许此败行，若是涉嫌此道者还是资深的粤曲导师，就更令人齿冷矣！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1570 ) 日期：2013/02/09 15:43 留言者：辛奇士 发烧友兄： 讲得好！掷地有声！从您所言卿叔旧事，估计是省内行家。本栏目发展甚快，迅速打破三万五浏览关，端赖世界各地粤曲爱好者的关顾，与及言之有物、有趣而成就之。栏主Kc兄科学家转教育家再转曲友。佢一见点击率上就饮杯，恐怕而家已醉至不省人事矣！ 小趣小闹，冰糖燕窝，甜润滋补。大是大非，水煮牛肉，辣得黎有咬口。就是这个主呀.....意。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1571 ) 日期：2013/02/09 16:26 留言者：Kc 小弟仲未醉倒，只是去咗辦年貨而已！ 大家都知醫曲之說，當然也知講緊某君，一定唔會搞錯！ 但據小弟有數次同局操曲之誼，相信此君乃自命不凡之士！ 改曲也的確落足了考証求真，簡直同辛兄有得揮！ 亦有俾一千皮卿叔求准改曲的往事！ 話佢剽竊，似乎言重了！ 邊有人鼠人嘢，鼠得咁光明正大嫁？ 當然，小弟非有意代其人辯解！ 只是人地懶啋此貼！小弟只有代辯而已！ 如火猛得滯！小弟唯有去煎年糕囉！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1572 ) 日期：2013/02/09 17:49 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 某曲友曾在某曲社见过某君改唐涤生既名曲准备操噃！究竟点畀介呢吓？ 至於佢同卿叔既恩怨，发烧友兄或知一二？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1573 ) 日期：2013/02/09 18:16 留言者：Kc 正言若反！ 小弟只代表一陣反方先！ 隻映紅霞都被改到七彩啦！ 但而家出騷班大哥大姐；冇人唱佢改果隻噃！ 巿場証明一切！ 但隻兩斷腸又唱到上流行榜噃！又點計先？ 卿叔收咗人一千皮人仔！有冇人知先？ 有次立網唐君有留言嫁！唔信查番下啦！ 有人受落即有市場！ 有市場至有人做假馬！ 犯法就俾人拉咗啦！ 唔係我地話得！就做得！話唔得！就唔做得！ 咁霸道？點玩落去？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1574 ) 日期：2013/02/09 18:26 留言者：Kc 隻兩斷腸3月21日大會堂有人出騷添！ 吳寧，黃雅宜演出！ 收280之馬！辛兄你鍾意買飛聽歌,！去捧下場啦！ 同塲送唐君曲藝精華添！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1575 ) 日期：2013/02/09 18:39 留言者：行過 奇怪點解這些言論總是追住一位仁兄, 人家都只是寫明話加詞, 話佢手痕就真係適當, 佢都有自己撰過吓曲, 而且呢纇情形其他教曲師傅都會有吖, 不過可能有時佢又真係加得幾好, 所以咁容易得罪人。何解「百萬XX藏阿斗」、「西樓X夢」、「血濺XX宮」..........好多,甚至看見曲譜也寫著是XXXXㄨㄨ撰曲, 唔知還以為是新曲, 到深圳操曲時才知原來有多個版本, 但原來曲詞又無乜大改變。呢味嘢可能都係睇人嚟(蝦)嘅! 對不起咁多嘴, 以後都唔敢答嗲! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1576 ) 日期：2013/02/09 19:07 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： HKD280系高档价噃！等小弟睇吓乜人同乜曲先啦！ 路过兄： 唔只一个人。听闻你讲个支《西楼X梦》有段古。本来写系甲君撰既，点知X凤番黎做大戏，畀观从发现。最近出骚司仪话原撰曲人系名家XXX，甲君只系某几段作修改云云。犹抱琵琶半遮面，但系CD封套出左街点扳呢？仲有果支《客途X恨魂X盟》曲辞有六成系照抄《客途X恨》既，但系CD套又话系乙君撰既。我地应该系论事不论人。若不刹住歪风，好易越演越烈，边个仲咁傻去搞原创呀？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1577 ) 日期：2013/02/09 19:18 留言者：寸草心 粤曲呢行既文化産權真係"烏厘單刀"(唔好問點解)! 人地三星同平果都撈乱骨頭啦! 我都係唔可以接受: 彈某傳唱名曲边度唔妥,更吹捧改过既版本!.......認真要不得! Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1578 ) 日期：2013/02/09 20:25 留言者：kc 辛兄: 人地係行過姐！唔係路過兄！ 似乎認錯人噃！ 講講下, 小弟追唔上添！ 西樓小弟出過騷, 乜唔係方文正作品咩？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.1579 ) 日期：2013/02/09 19:55 留言者：寸草心 KC兄,人地行过啫,你都追唔倒! 冇事吖馬!

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