粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.868 ) 日期：2012/12/29 12:10 留言者：小李 祥哥好野！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.869 ) 日期：2012/12/29 12:26 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 多年前看新编粤剧《楚汉争》，梁汉威做楚霸王，俊扮(无胡须)，全场至矮系佢。成日行黎行去闹人，烂仔款。大佬呀，楚霸王力扛千斤鼎，豪气干云，百万军中取上将首级如无物。任你想象力再丰富都联系唔到威哥同剧中人，失败系必然既。 讲起近几年的新曲既搏懵野，罄竹难书，得闲慢慢讲。Kc兄您讲左《新霸王别姬》既无厘头野，新凡风几年前系月刊已经锄过，奈何很多师奶照唱照喊。乜都假，最紧要有野唱，即长而小曲多之谓也。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.870 ) 日期：2012/12/29 13:30 留言者：tt 咁以後唱新霸唔唱𢇁𢇁淚，會唔會比個生炳呢？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.871 ) 日期：2012/12/29 15:12 留言者：Kc 冇咗果段，成隻歌冇晒吸引力！ 話之佢死啦！死咗都可繼續唱假馬！ 歸天果支歌，kc最鍾意就係歸咗天後的小白船！蓬拆拆！蓬拆拆！又輕快，又開心！ 出騷就至正嘞！kc見過有人燈光熄滅再亮，彩紙洒落舞台！氣氛好到不得了！ 咁至係有誠意之作吖馬！ 而家D曲，嚇死人，的麼了一樣得！最近kc學果隻題橋司馬感文君！ 什麼恐世上知人音杳，轉瞬隨風散盡了！押韻就得！ 如果個韻係世人知音人過，變了,,,,,,隨風就為什麼？都得啦！ 真吹漲！ 仲有戲妲己•••••••錦江橋 ，錦江橋，橋欄橋柱堅復俏！ 嘩！有冇才子形容條橋俏嫁？啱韻就話之你通唔通乎？ 如果係過韻，你話橋欄橋柱殘又破都得啦！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.872 ) 日期：2012/12/29 15:09 留言者：辛奇士 TT曲友： 深圳剧团大花旦李翠翠个唱同彭炽权唱《新霸王别姬》，旦自刎後即锣钹收，生大叫虞姬。呢的咪识艺术罗。京剧只是旦自刎後即落幕。至於您个生同唔同意就睇佢识唔识野喇！想完整的生可以滚花收。喂，大佬呀！就算把剑锯唔正唔死得住，个爱人自杀系咁标晒血，唔救佢仲同佢谈心直正流晒血死为止，个霸王仲系唔系人黎架？！陈冠卿《潞安州》旦自刎後轻轻一句「将军保重」都畀行内人炳到开花喇！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.873 ) 日期：2012/12/29 15:24 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 《归天》正正就系欠左死同升天之间应有既音乐过渡，所以出骚到这转折必须熄一熄灯来补镬。《梁祝》同《帝女花》都有死後化仙以符合观众希望既大团圆结局。不过人地系从人间到天堂後至可以开心噃！《新霸王别姬》既场景系一个死紧一个仲要突围噃。唉，真系华光显灵都谂唔掂！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.874 ) 日期：2012/12/29 16:17 留言者：Kc 咁又唔駛咁真實，藝術吖馬！ 在台上，大家都係識分辨合唔合理嘅！ 例如，花木蘭代父從軍，你係都問佢點冲涼，點同班大男人相處！會唔會大煞風景呀？ 至於編劇編曲，甘地會西施都出現過！ 尉遲恭大戰張飛一樣得！ 嘩！斷腸詞，朱淑真，死咗至同男友私奔！ 咁咪一樣得！藝術同作文差不多！天下文人多大話！ 總之亂噏一通就通！ 可憐有班學者，續字續句去考究帝女花的文詞！俾班友吹漲！ 落花滿天蔽月光？ 咁乜花要幾密至可以遮得晒個月光呢？ 借一杯? 大佬？花唔係一杯杯嫁！ 通唔通先？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.875 ) 日期：2012/12/29 16:57 留言者：Hawaiian 一句戲劇效果,藝術加工乜都掂.以前張徹的武俠片,邊個主角唔係滿身(茄汁)鮮血,插住刀鎗仍力敵數十人,把敵人殺得乾乾淨淨先慢慢倒下去.重部部賣座過百萬(七十年代初).所以聽古莫駁古,睇戲莫拗戲,否則冇古聽冇戲睇.其實這是歷史必然發展,以前分全男斑,全部用假聲唱.發展到男女同斑,男用真聲唱.又由各個行當發展到六大台柱,拆拆下剩得兩條柱,有時得番一條(折子戲).唐滌生的劇本,老一輩識欣賞的人當然叫好.但八九十後一輩,又有幾多個人肯欣賞或識欣賞呢?唔白字錯字連篇己阿彌陀佛!”仲”有”錫”晒你積非成是,許冠傑式的歌詞會成為主流,因為通俗易懂容易上口.一百幾十年後,粵劇粵曲一定存在.不過一定唔係我們看過聽過的一樣,到時那些導師都唔知識唔識今日啲嘢.總之話明係娛樂,明早起床又係新的一日. Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.876 ) 日期：2012/12/29 18:05 留言者：Kc 咁就係囉！ 時代唔同，有D同時代脫了節，例如什麼孔雀東南飛喎！什麼胡不歸之迫媳！ 唱都多餘！迫媳？仲邊有呢支歌仔唱！ 虐老就易D！個婆婆咁惡，家嫂唔掃佢出門就奇了！ 仲有唐婉事件咩 不過太現代化，又唔係幾好！最近見南方衛視介紹粵劇山鄉風雲 Kc根本無法去欣賞，粵劇搞成咁，真無法接受！ 難為個個大老倌落力演出！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.877 ) 日期：2012/12/29 22:42 留言者：辛奇士 Kc、Hawaiian 两兄： 如果挂艺术之名可以全部天马行空，甚至可以颠倒历史、科学、生理既小弟就不敢苟同。这不是艺术，是洒狗血。粤曲功能之一是教育性，不应凭空捏造，背弃大众(现代人)已接受的社会道德价值观与文字应用。廖侠怀个套《甘地会西施》系梦会，勉强可以大话西游，後来亦无人演因为太荒唐。《逼媳》出骚当谐曲而不当悲曲处理当可。至於「落花满天闭月光」唐涤生灵感应取自《红楼梦》林黛玉的「葬花词」首两句：「花落花飞飞满天，红销香断有谁怜？」虽是现实的夸张，却是文学想象的真实。这在中国诗词曲中常有，小弟觉得并无问题。 拿，我地讲过架，系呢处若意见不同可以各抒己见，并专重异见。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.878 ) 日期：2012/12/29 22:52 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 《香夭》既借一杯系酒唔系花，因而带出下文「将砒霜带泪放落葡萄上」。我都系断估架咋，而家找不到唐哥黎澄清。不过当年仙凤鸣戏宝仲有班中国文学教授参订，遣词用字应该靠得住。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.879 ) 日期：2012/12/29 23:31 留言者：Kc 吹水嘢，自然唔駛認真！ 但學者的確批到唐滌生帝女花，不合理，一例是周世顕唱詞提及清世祖，此乃謚號，人地未瓜，何來此號？莫非周世顕未卜先知？ 庵遇果間不應是庵！而帝女花內容也與史實不符！人地帝女被崇禎斷了一臂！ 是為獨臂神尼！掌娥眉派！點會同周世顕一齊自殺嫁？ 講起D曲內容怪誕，最妙就係方文正隻什麼天宮駐情！ 青蛇原來係男性，為了守護白蛇，變成小青！都算富想象力了！ 至於唐婉陸遊故事，無嗱嗱就作個春娥出泥，整支春娥勸夫！ 而家D新曲，最大劑係唔耐聽！如果唔係學唱，根本聽多次都嫌悶！ Kc而家學緊隻司馬題橋感文君為例！陳小漢把聲已經難聽！仲演司馬相如，點襯蔣文端呢？ 仲係要文君跟佢私奔果隻！大佬！冇說服力吖馬！ 除非話卓文君係盲妹至得！聽倒琴聲就發晒姣！ 至於曲詞唔合理，就太多了！大把話題啦！ 至於香夭第一句講落花！跟住就借一杯附乜（執筆忘字添）鳯台上！ 點會忽然變咗酒嫁？玩魔術咩？

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