粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一） 日期：2015/04/26 22:55 留言者：KC 通常網上討論，好易談興正濃離了題！又來不及去談天說地版設題！不如就開個廣濶的題目！ 任大家隨意發揮吧！ （出貼日期：2012年10月21日）上面日期乃本貼修改過的日期！

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.892 ) 日期：2012/12/30 11:34 留言者：Kc 呵呵！今次仲唔闖過二萬大關！ 回應數目已過了一哥大笪地，而家係追迫佢三萬關！各位網友！努力呀！日日泥幾次！秒秒有新料嫁！ 講番粵曲粵劇的內容，呢個題目，十日十夜都講唔晒！ 是關而家D新曲，兩句上句出現又有！兩句下句出現又有！強姦工尺就更多！至於內容不合情理也不少！ 懶人編曲，一唔係發夢，一唔係撞鬼！一唔係就生離！一唔係就死別！題材窄到死！ 情節既不感人，人物也不感人，咁又點令人喜愛𠳿？ Kc眼見很多唱曲的朋友，根本係學唱先唱！人地以前D人，時時刻刻都哼住D旋律！曲詞就朗朗上口！ 而家連流行曲，都冇邊支係好聽嘅！ 講開又開，果日電視訪問丁凡，蔣文端，關於佢地最近個流行曲騷！ 佢地話，粵曲，一各就識開口！ 但流行曲就要數拍，同聽住副旋律開口！ 有冇人有好D嘅開口辨法呢？下？ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.893 ) 日期：2012/12/30 17:32 留言者：辛奇士 有次听到某职业撰曲人叹话无晒历史题材。唔明粤曲点解一定系古人古事？小弟听过最今(唔系金、亦唔系甘)既历史人物就系袁世凯、蔡锷、小凤仙、苏曼殊等，已经系成百年前。数风流人物，还看今朝；应该仲有好多近代猛人。香港地言论自由，写善人善事，应无问题。若怕法律责任，可以虚构人物而用真正既社会背景架。你睇电影拍极都有新素材。话无系的撰曲人懒或者渣既o者！香港系一个经济奇迹：从无到有、从穷到富、从贪污到廉政，大把励志故事，定引社会共鸣。要争取新的粤曲听众观众，何如写他们身边和回忆中的人和事？可惜小弟听粤曲几十年，近代背景既都是谐曲，严肃既还在等呀等。。。歌永言，歌曲永远有人听，在传播方面，粤曲输畀流行歌有各种因素，其中之一是时代感。父母都嫌老土，点望子女喜欢？小弟绝无活弃旧贪新。只要正，旧野永远有价值，只系希望多的新野o者。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.894 ) 日期：2012/12/30 17:54 留言者：一粟 真懷念梁醒波之"稻草人", "釣魚郎", "黑海歸帆" 等名曲... Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.895 ) 日期：2012/12/30 18:45 留言者：Kc 辛兄：近人唔係冇！ 支苦鳯離鸞就講果位豉味歌王囉！ 但一句嫖賭飲蕩鴉片煙！俾人媽到飛起！ 人地都唔係咁！亂作係唔掂噃！ 仲內有岡亟昊天！人地死老豆至用嫁馬 佢瓜咗個老婆就用錯晒啦！ 而且月嬋都唔係佢老婆！簡直胡說八道！ 唔俾人告，算佢好彩咯！ 大陸有好多現代版粵曲粵劇嫁！ 不過小弟一見就轉台咯！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.896 ) 日期：2012/12/30 21:28 留言者：辛奇士 Kc兄： 究竟曲中人系咪有鸦片瘾我唔知，只系听闻有的内容系真既。至於撰曲人错用个句「罔极昊天」，新凡风系月刊亦锄过。其人为押韵仲经常将的名词掉转。大佬呀，有好多系唔得架！你话感动成动感，关公做公关点得既o者。不过好多师奶住系画之里，最紧要易唱、多野唱、死人塌楼！新佬话佢最疼心就系曲艺文化堕落，虽然讲亦系白讲，但白讲也要讲；呢个系佢既责任咁话。搅串晒个party, 咁咪得罪人多咯，鞋！佢太认真喇，好多时唔开心。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.897 ) 日期：2012/12/30 22:34 留言者：Kc 呵呵！迫近二萬關嘞！今晚夜D必破關而上！ 唐滌生先生的粵劇曲詞，至今冇人能及！ 但仍然被D學者鋤到九彩！白雪仙做白蛇傳，用了成班學者搞曲詞，結果搞到唔唱得！吹漲！ 其實大文豪，唐宋八大家之一的東坡先生，佢老哥寫D詞，居然也唱不得！因為條友唔識音樂也！ 小明星D星腔咁堅，原因是王心帆先生只懂詩詞，不懂音樂同曲藝！任天份極高的小明星發揮！是以成家！ 其實好多文人要同音樂人合作，才能編好一支曲也！ 唐滌生就同王粵生是一對最隹拍擋！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.898 ) 日期：2012/12/30 22:41 留言者：Tommy 歷史可以改編，我們叫它做演義，最著名是三國演義；還有隋唐演義、殘唐演義、封神演義等等。周瑜是病死，貂嬋、李元霸實無其人，曹植寫洛神賦，洛神是寫自己，不是寫宓妃；范蠡西施並無重會……甚至可以說現時所唱幾百首粵曲，合乎歷史的一成也沒有。但卻不減其文學價值。唯改編必須合於科學，不悖情理。 未卜先知，提及謚號，絕對不妥：除夢會驪宮之<讓位肅宗> ，還有山河情淚的<我周世宗>，昭君出塞的<拜上元皇帝>都犯同樣毛病。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.899 ) 日期：2012/12/30 22:46 留言者：老三 小弟同意沈秉和先生的看法：粤曲從來就不是嚴肅文學....。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.900 ) 日期：2012/12/30 23:25 留言者：Kc 咁就係，大家吹吹水，亦不是很嚴肅的學術硏究！ 聽多了，學多了，粵曲唱詞，自是有D文學修養極高，用典又深，很適合愛好文學的朋友學習！ 但喜歡歷史的朋友就會發覺粵劇並不是歷史改編 反而野史，演義，傳說居多！ 寫曲的朋友，很少認真考証，搜集資料，才去編寫！好多是想當然矣！ 所以作學術硏究，就要千萬留意了！ Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.901 ) 日期：2012/12/31 03:40 留言者：四姑娘 以前很多文盲，學曲就是隨口噏，點會有研究。 初學粵曲時，我那個教曲的老師曾經對我說“原來你識字”。我當時頓了一頓，我的年代，法文、德文都大行其道啦，點可能唔識字？後來發現學院裡，那些穿金戴銀的保皇黨原來大多數不識字，只識寫自已個名，銀行要提錢，英文一句： f....你個能，用來駡的鬼佬！曲中詞彙跟她們無關，只求老師對她們有關目，縱容老師的蠻橫，榨取。36着！ 會不會遲些有作曲者作支鐵甲超人？印象中好似以前有支石鬼仔？是電影？太細個，唔記得了 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.902 ) 日期：2012/12/31 03:46 留言者：TL 當今文理分科，文學水平尤其是古代文學水平與先輩讀書人自是無法相比。想來眼下幾個撰曲家在執筆時也是嘔心瀝血的。世無英雄，能上台面的也是應該好好保護的稀有物種（絕無貶義）了。 以前傳唱的曲本其實也是沙泥俱下，粗俗鄙陋者並不罕見。兩相比較，當代的曲子雖失於結屈謷牙，情趣上品位上卻講究了很多——比較下新舊幾個白居易或蔡文姬就知道了。 Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.903 ) 日期：2012/12/31 03:50 留言者：小李 請問《泣血水繪園》一曲是講甚麼東東？　看曲名真係抅晒頭！

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