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粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一)
日期:2015/04/26 22:55
留言者:KC

(微笑) (微笑) (微笑)通常網上討論,好易談興正濃離了題!又來不及去談天說地版設題!不如就開個廣濶的題目!
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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2340 )
日期:2013/04/13 13:16
留言者:麥友成

我理解的大陸腔,方言可能是其中一個原因,努力是努力但還是留有少許鄉音,曲友中有些水上人家唱得不錯,但很多字音就改不了,比如...... 路安州恨敵重圍數熱狗呀! (表情23) (表情23)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2341 )
日期:2013/04/13 13:29
留言者:路過

六十年代,粵曲比賽的評分標準,聲線只佔20%,最重要是板路,佔40%。

不知現在的標準有無變動?

重貼一張1966年舊報導,由梁以忠等名家作評判的粵曲比賽。

當時這種社區性、小規模的活動都可邀請到梁以忠作評判,真是羡慕。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2342 )
日期:2013/04/13 19:00
留言者:老三

單單對"聲、色、藝"的理解,就不但有地域上的很不同,就算三樣的重要性和排名,也大有不同。老三在國內不止認識一位嗓音相當好的唱曲發燒友,都是為了保持好嗓音,犧牲了很重要的生活需要;有的和另一半分房唾,有的比尼姑吃得更齋...。老三出於本心善意告訴他/她們:聽曲聽味道,嗓音不是重要得那麽利害的...,都給反駁地說:"聲、色、藝","聲"排笫一,...。老三從此石口免開了。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2343 )
日期:2013/04/13 21:19
留言者:辛奇士

唱家一辞实在很广阔,有的曲骚司仪阿猫阿狗都誉为唱家!三哥说的黄、陈、罗都是职业导师,出过CD,出骚亦受介;与杨、何、潘并列应该可以。若说前者地位或功力比後者低,小弟实不敢苟同。无谓拗,见仁见智便是。

这一轮的意气争辩实由大陆腔一辞引起。因大陆两字表面上包含了十三亿人,至少是广东省八九千万人。当年的结论已是三十年前,而三十五页的讨论亦只有少数人知道(当然一家言先生与小弟不知道)。举例说当年很多中国人食鸦片,被外国人讥为东亚病夫。今天中国人肯定不同意,请看奥运金牌榜。试想若老外叫我地做东亚病夫,引起误会後解释说不是说你们,是你们的祖辈,我地还是会不舒服的啊!既已事过境迁,潮语再不潮,何不将此辞在网上仃用,而用更清楚准确的代辞?反要费唇舌说此不是彼咁麻烦?

重复小弟的浅薄认知:1.声、色、艺以艺最重要。2.曲艺粤港一家亲。取缔一切离间粤港曲友感情的言行!

谭国莲小姐健康如何?还请一家言先生报导一下。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2344 )
日期:2013/04/13 21:28
留言者:大學友
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各位网友好,小弟幾年無出聲,每晚都看,KC 人好風趣,不要被趕走,十分支持KC及同路人。 (好!) (拍掌) (表情13) (表情34) (表情35) (表情35) (表情35) (表情35)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2345 )
日期:2013/04/13 23:31
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)停不停用大陸腔,是不由主觀意願可控!

相信到今日,對唱得好之人,冇人再話人唱緊大陸腔!

正如冇人會話而家的中國人,東亞病夫一樣!

如果你依然被人叫東亞病夫!可能閣下身體真的出了問題了! (表情19) (表情19) (表情19)

小弟相信一日尚有人唱得不夠水準,一日都有人用上大陸腔此詞!

東南病夫的類比,是時至今日,不禁自絕!但大陸腔依然存在!禁也難絕!

誤解了,有人同你解釋是閣下的運氣!根本冇人有責任去點醒你!柄你一鑊至正路也!

如果將來,無此情況,不禁自絶! (表情19) (表情19) (表情19)

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冇嘢瓦?

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2346 )
日期:2013/04/13 22:17
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)今次之事,不是誤解了大陸腔咁簡單!

是有人以為,凡香港腔皆自稱有韻味!挑起爭議!才是問題焦點!不要搞錯! (表情33) (表情33) (表情33)

小弟只是被人點名要回應之有識之士! (表情23) (表情23) (表情23)

唔吹番兩嘴!容乜易變冇識之士嫁?

金山橙大哥!你背後仲有個名家新凡風撐!

小弟只得查的的••的的••的的•••••••••撐咋! (表情23) (表情23) (表情23)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2347 )
日期:2013/04/13 22:23
留言者:一家言

  说来太巧了,辛奇士先生问及谭国莲小姐的健康状况,前天晚上我在广州友谊剧院看广东粤剧院二团排演的新戏《蔡文姬》,主演是准备以此剧参评“梅花奖”的麦玉清,恰好坐在我后一排的就是谭国莲。中场休息时,我们互相闲聊一番,原来谭小姐前些时候因为声带长息肉,的确在医院做过手术,现今已无大碍。医生说半年后,即可如旧正常演唱。在此,顺告如上。
  一样米养百样人,同是唱粤曲,有人看重韵味,有人注重声音,有人或者更倾向于感情,这是很自然的现象,其中并没有“大陆”和香港之别。省内的人和专业唱家唱粤曲,难道就没有注重韵味的吗?答案当然是否定的。在香港所有唱粤曲的人当中,就没有喜欢“卖声”的人?我看也不见得。如果依照有些人的逻辑推论,这些香港唱家唱的不也是“大陆腔”吗?既然两地的唱家都可能存在着这样那样的不足,为何不从以和为贵的大方向出发,不用容易引起某一方误会的称谓来进行讨论。
  粤港同饮一江水,两地的文化风俗有着千丝万缕的联系,具体到艺术方面也是各有千秋,互有长短,谁都不应该自以为真理在手,从而居高临下对对方挑剔和讽刺的专利。现时的粤剧和粤曲本已日渐式微,如果两地的同行和爱好都还“笼里鸡作反”,那么这种夕阳艺术可能会消亡得更快。本着将它发扬光大的愿望,两地的同行应捐弃前嫌,多做有益的实事。不要纠缠在无谓的口舌之争中,惟其如此,粤剧幸甚,粤曲幸甚矣!

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2348 )
日期:2013/04/13 22:33
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)不嬲此處就係咁嫁啦!

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2349 )
日期:2013/04/13 22:47
留言者:寸草心

天空海闊!條條大路通羅馬! (表情13)

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2350 )
日期:2013/04/13 22:50
留言者:老三

老三墨水不多,古詞舊語不怎懂使用。但甚有直指弊端性的用詞"大陸腔"一詞,絕不會自我禁止停用。正所謂愛之深恨之切,對粵藝的期望與關心,認為絕非禁用一些不利團結的詞語就可做到或達成。倒是對那些不是之處,不言不吭才是不作承擔和負責任的態度。對於那些自閉自卑性重的人,連直指其弊端的逆言也不能接受,相信亦不會是未來粵藝的棟梁之材,由得他謾罵和街罵好了。

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.2351 )
日期:2013/04/13 23:04
留言者:Kc

(大笑) (大笑) (大笑)又話言論自由?

又要自我檢查!

停用?收回?

誤解?誤解大晒咩!

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