粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

粵曲粵劇趣味話題 (卷一）

日期：2015/04/26 22:55
留言者：KC

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Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.952 )
日期：2013/01/02 21:48
留言者：辛奇士

回944帖：

绝对公平系无既，只可以减少偏私动机。奥运吊环陈一冰赢成条街都畀人屈做亚军喇！

概念如下：

1.即时公开每个评判畀每个参加者既每一项分数。评分後不能改。
2.评判评分时应独立、严肃，不能交头接耳，更不能互看分纸。
3.腔是最主观的，占总分不能太高。小弟暂建议为30%。何况曲艺演绎，腔以外尚有其他。
4.评判要多元化，不偏於某一腔的唱家。唱家外，音乐师傅、曲评人亦应该有。反而撰曲人很多是不谂唱腔的。选择评判标准公信力重於名气。
5.尽量诚少利益连系，职业导师尽量少。
6.到场评判要多於实际人，譬如说决赛邀请九人，临场抽签定七个评判，成绩只取中间五个的平均分。
7.评判要签公平同意及保密书，事先不能向外透露。
8.评分方法事先要与评判有足够沟通，不同意的放弃。
9.初赛光听录音亦应慎重。起码三个与决赛
资历差不远，按比赛分制(减去台风一项)取平均分。评判不知参赛者资料，只知号码
10.一定系专家评判。外行或观众代表都不能要。一有观众票便有造马人。
11.宣传比赛时同时将计分制公开，让曲友监督。

暂时谂到咁多。做多做少看资源。乜都假，诚意最紧要。系时候将粤曲比赛陋习去除；使得奖者实至名归。 (好!) (拍掌)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.953 )
日期：2013/01/02 21:52
留言者：仁大代表

Kc

跳水評分有技術動作等可作標準。而粵曲藝術博大精深。單純一句夠唔夠粵曲味道就難評分了。

所謂“名腔”更難評語，以一位無知人仕寫道，風腔是陳腔爛調，B腔是低B腔，而蝦腔亦一無是處。如果要把這三位的腔作為某杯賽的評審標準哪豈不是把垃圾放上臺？而且腔口中也被分為大陸腔與香港腔。這樣一來，什么腔該睇高一線呢？

(大笑)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.954 )
日期：2013/01/02 22:15
留言者：Kc

哦！

仁大代表兄：明解！明解！

當然係難啦！近期慹門話題是迎難而上！

粵曲味嘛！哈哈！唱粵曲唱到有粵曲味！的確係一個很"岩”重的問題！

做評判要做到三公亦係一個 (表情19) ‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧

是關終審法官都有可能搞錯‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧你說怎麼辦？你說怎麼辦？ (表情23)

吹下‧‧‧‧吹下‧‧‧‧‧‧都唔知點吹咯‧‧‧‧
交番個波俾辛兄先啦‧‧‧‧‧‧‧‧

留意辛兄高見啦！ (好!) (好!) (好!) (拍掌)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.955 )
日期：2013/01/02 22:34
留言者：辛奇士

Kc兄：

艺术系主观既，有相对而无绝对标准。广大曲友亦明白，佢地只系唔顺明造马仲话代表香港唱艺水平。旧时个的得奖者如罗秋鸿、邓有银等都系有料之人，经得起考验。呢几年个的总觉得参差，出到外边比赛输多赢少。系普遍水准低落抑或评判问题自己谂喇！小弟既十一条就系间接既评判问责制，等名大而有私心或料不足的评判三思後果至决定做唔做。 (表情16)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.956 )
日期：2013/01/02 23:03
留言者：Kc

(表情7) 辛兄：大家都知香港近年比賽曾出過很多爭議！

而亦有因參賽者人數不足，臨時拉夫都見過！

曲社代表有冪後關係又見過！

明顯做馬，都係眾人目光下出現！

做成俾人睇唔起！有關人仕如果再搞唔該就認真D！

Kc見過有位仁兄登段廣告，話主辦單位俾人走數，冇現金獎與佢無關！

哈哈！究竟搞乜鬼？咁都發生過！ (表情19) (表情23)

嘩！辛兄！公開評分！唔至打走評判！仲打走埋參賽者添！

事關參賽者得超低分！咪要搵窿捐？

人地省城四洲杯人人九十幾嫁！咪kc去到攞四十幾！豈不是同狼英哥斗低分？

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.957 )
日期：2013/01/02 23:53
留言者：guan

仁大代表，

你话嗰个无知人士系咪指呆呀？不妨直言噃。

呆无知？呆读过好多书架，连埋细佬哥时候睇的三毛，老夫子，铎叔等小人书，后生时看的PLAYBOY，各种咸书、杂志报刊等等，加加埋埋真系五部手推车搬唔晒，都算得上学富五车挂，咁都算无知？冇嘢讲咯！

重有，你有所不知啦，就算唱埋点陈腔烂调都唔一定系垃圾，唔听得架，唐健垣有个高足，具体叫什么唔记得了，好似叫陈中，佢唱的风腔呆就好欣赏了．正是不似风腔，胜似风腔！

其他的例子还有好多，好似呆唔听林家声的，但系何述松唱的声腔（如果算的话）呆就听到停唔到，咁高深的道理唔知你明唔明了！

KC，

四十几？有冇呀？呆好怀疑咯！十八廿二可能性大点噃． (表情23)

九十几就湿碎啦，人家只狼攞成六百几七百分架，重唔赵硬你？

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.958 )
日期：2013/01/03 00:07
留言者：辛奇士

要三公就唔好怕瘀。系输要输得条气顺，唔好不明不白。四洲杯的大陆高手好多都系职业架，重操到火红火绿，何况广东省人口十倍於香港，输系正路。不过点至可以统一大陆同香港评判意见确系问题。两地观点与角度唔同。

如果系香港友比赛，可以有打底分，咪唔会影响赛果兼好好睇睇罗。路系人行出黎，计亦系人谂出黎。 (表情39)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.959 )
日期：2013/01/03 00:18
留言者：kc

(大笑) guan兄: 咁死低分？仲敢出泥行乎？

唉！本來搞得掂個評審標準, 偏向小弟, 仲想攞番個金獎假馬！

例如: 凡唱歌有腔即丁！仲唔啱晒小弟！

冇人事關係必死！小弟嬴硬！是關........

(表情23)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.960 )
日期：2013/01/03 00:23
留言者：辛奇士

回953帖：

行腔畀分并唔系以某一腔为标准，而系以唱工中既腔味为标淮，唱乜野腔都可以。简单讲就系撩耳度，系一种感觉，要有深入研究既行内人至会分析。所以评判要有专业水平，不能以名位作选择标准者也。 (好!)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.961 )
日期：2013/01/03 00:57
留言者：代表说

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代表被封了。想回答都不行，谢谢大家。

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.962 )
日期：2013/01/03 01:08
留言者：kc

(表情19)

why? why? Tell me why?

佢罪犯何條？冇言論自由？ (沉思)

Re: 粵曲粵劇趣味話題 ( No.963 )
日期：2013/01/03 01:20
留言者：kc

(大笑)

注意：討論回覆上限 (1000) 編，現在討論留言已有 (959) 編 !

大鑊！闖關失敗添！

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