粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 日期：2006/03/13 10:07 留言者：阿立，阿藍 大笪地演出的曲友，絕大多數的都是業餘愛好者，不是專業唱家，能夠寄曲在此一展歌喉，實須莫大的勇氣，亦是我們應該鼓勵及支持的，我們更相信，演出者一定渴望各位曲友能夠對他們的曲藝提出寶貴的意見，使能更上一層樓。 沒有唱曲是可完美無瑕的，各人唱功亦深淺有異，大笪地水準參差，是十分正常的，我們希望大眾曲友，能抱著互勵互勉的精神，聽曲後給予回應，作為對演出的曲友一個實質的支持。 歡迎曲友對大笪地演出者的曲藝提出意見，只要是善意的批評，各演出者定樂於接受。 此專頁亦歡迎各演出者就曲友的評語作出回應。 按此進入粵曲大笪地 請注意： 1) 各曲友的評語，無論正面或負面，全屬個人意見，祗供作參考之用，如需精確詳盡的品評及指導，演出者應詢問其專業老師。 2) 網主會刪除所有與評曲無關的留言，而且要求會比所有其他留言區嚴格，請諒。

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Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.241 ) 日期：2005/08/31 18:18 留言者：sam there are many aspects in teaching. Like pure voice training, teaching you how to use your voice. Like music knowledge, teaching you how to read and sing a piece. Like acting, teaching how to move and gesture etc. I have to say, with the risk of being shot ot pieces yet once again, that most teachers are not any one of them and not a combined one at all. It depends what you mean by learning. You want to enjoy singing with friends, to become an occasional performer just for your own ego or to be a professional performer. most teachers only teach you how to produce noises that resemble a musical sound to fit in with some words and thus sound like a song. They teach not how to sing, not to understand what music is. You learn song by song. In the old days we call this 'tin ngarb' (peking duck). Sus...mean sus....not quite right I can remember some of the teachings when people ask "I have trouble hitting high notes" and this is a very common question. They say...sing la, keep singing, you will singer higher notes eventually.....or..use your daan tin.........(never explain what that is and could not demonstrate how to do it)......or...... just beware of who you go to. Many people are just too friendly and too enthusiatic about opera. They like to help. They may not mean to rip you off. But problems has to be solved by the right kind of people. Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.242 ) 日期：2005/09/01 08:14 留言者：louis Hi Mulan Just echoing and supplimenting what Sam has siad about learning. Sam is correct about choosing the right teacher. However, if for one reason or the other you are unable to find a good one, you may wish to apply this self-directed learning strategy and yet able to enjoy CO. That is to say, get the tapes/CD/VCD/DVD of the artist(s) whom you like and learn by going through the dump but most effective process - copy his/her way of singing, record your practices and compare them with the originals. Find out by yourself through practice (or ask more experienced people) to solve some technical problems about where to pause in order to get the right tune (high pitch in particular). Then most important of all, get some opportunities to sing in front of the others - you would learn more by exposing your singing to other CO fans. But do not get cross with someone's blatant or even nasty comments, as most of us are not qualified teachers and worst of all, some of us are not used to comment in a constructive way ie not just telling you your weaknesses but be able to point out your strenghts and go with some words of encouragement! Wish you enjoy CO singing! Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.243 ) 日期：2005/09/01 16:38 留言者：Mulan 電郵：chanmulan@hotmail.com Hi Sam and Louis 萬分感謝倆位的忠告!! Actually, I am with a small group studying CO under a teacher, once a week. We sing following a VCD (karoke), and with a 'live band' once a month. Just as Louis said, singing in front of friends does help a lot. My progress is satisfactory but still plenty of room for improvement. Maybe, one day, I may sing for all the Alap friends!! Once again, thank you Mulan Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.244 ) 日期：2005/09/01 19:09 留言者：sam transfer a message from 留言板. if you are in HK 油尖康體第五屆粵曲初級入門培訓班招生 地址:油麻地咸美頓街38號油尖康樂體育會二樓 電話:27703797 開課日期:4/11/2005(星期五)晚上:七時至八時卅分(全八課,共$500 ) 上課練習時間表:2005年11至12月份;11/4, 9/11, 18/11,25/11,2/12, 7/12, 16/12及23/12. 課程:教授叮板入門音樂工尺為主 導師:韻文粵劇學苑院長勞韻妍小姐 報名從速,額滿即止。 截止報名日期：十月廿四日 Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.245 ) 日期：2005/09/02 14:41 留言者：发达 Eliza, 关于唱高音有困难，撇开发声理论，该是音域的问题。 一般任何唱歌骒，都会练音阶，从低音练向高音，又从高音练回低音，每一个元音 (vowel)练习一回，从 humming 开始比较安全， 这是扩阔音域踏踏实实的方法。练习音阶有很多花样，改善不同方面的问题。 我觉得唱歌有些像口技，要灵巧，别搅得太沉重。 假如你唱高音是时得时唔得的话，便须注意同一个气口中高音前面的低音尤其是子喉，低音发声位置跌了，高音便翻不上了。 长远来说，找个老师学吧！找对老师，上几堂个人课，老师可即时点出你的错误加以纠正，应该有收获。 不过你奢望一个老师可教懂你所有粤曲各方各面的知识，这是不切实制的。 以上乃小妹愚见，如有谬误，还请各方朋友指正。 Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.246 ) 日期：2005/09/02 15:27 留言者：老三 電郵：tamcomhk@yahoo.com.hk 發達靚姐 我太太從細到e家，平時講野都係用嬌而尖幼的假聲，隨口哼唱粵曲都已是子喉，但就無法可以唱得大聲、響亮，一大聲多少就"拆"聲，不知是怎麼回事呢？可否指教、指教一下呢？ 唔該、唔該！！ 老三 Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.247 ) 日期：2005/09/02 16:29 留言者：pinpin 老三: 真是羨剎旁人! 我想呢種就叫糯米聲, 甜史人! 可不請老三將夫人的一小段唱詞上載, 待眾人賞罷, 才作打算? Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.248 ) 日期：2005/09/02 22:56 留言者：发达 老三， pinpin说得甚是，恭喜你 也是愚见！ 我觉得一般人说话的声音与小时候身边的人说话声相像，如父母等。 这是小时学说话从模仿开始，包括发声位置、大小声、气量等。 另外便是生理构造，如声带和其他发声相关的器官等。唱歌是需要在先天条件下发出最美丽的声音或是最接近理想的声音。所以，说话的声音不等同唱歌的声音。我在合唱队的时候认识一位声乐老师，早年留学意大利，可能年纪大的关系她说话时声音沙哑，但上台唱歌时，声音清脆像个少女。 有些人讲话的声音就已经接近唱歌时的发声所需的条件，唱歌便是轻而易举，例如在山野乡间唱山歌的民族，便不乏唱得之人；有些人善于模仿，有样学样，唱起歌来也不难。但如果都不是的话，便绝对需要声乐方面的帮助了。 在音色、音域方面，因生理条件不尽相同，人人都有其高音、低音及声量上的极限。未经训练的声音当然有很大的改善空间。 说到刘太，我未听过她唱歌，即使听到了也不确定能听得出所以然来。不过，我见过和我一起学唱曲的朋友，初学时声细细的，是因为气太浅，不习惯嘴皮要使劲去咬字，和不习惯撑开咽喉；要能唱，这三项必须到位，时刻反省，多听名家唱腔印证。 千万别放大喉咙用力推出声音来唱，这会适得其反；唱几唱，喉咙就干或甚至痛，就是错，立刻要停唱保声。 我而家心跳，面热，好惊讲错，最好有识之仕出来指正下。 Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.249 ) 日期：2005/09/03 01:22 留言者：老三 電郵：tamcomhk@yahoo.com.hk 發達靚姐 非常多謝妳！妳解釋得詳盡又明白，真係好唔該晒妳！ 但明白歸明白，要消化和吸收其中要素，亦不是容易的事。 妳又袋左好多錢落我個袋啦！ pinpin 哈哈哈...........，糯米聲？開心史我囉............ 佢後生到e家，都係咁人靚聲甜兼温柔。唔好講男人丫，女人都大把人暈低左....... 真係架.............！ 遲d整首同佢既對唱曲智得！ Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.250 ) 日期：2005/09/03 22:51 留言者：pinpin 老三: 敢公開讚美夫人的是真男子也！pinpin這廂有禮。 一於翹首以望, 洗耳恭聽喇。 Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.251 ) 日期：2005/09/06 16:41 留言者：老三 師父仔 你去左邊呀？大笪地有新曲呀！ Re: 粵曲大笪地之曲友評語專頁 ( No.252 ) 日期：2005/09/06 17:42 留言者：1010 師父仔：你好唔得閒呀，我都有些問題好困擾 ，想聽下你的意見 唔知點解我講嘢都好大声(鬧人就更加)但點解唱歌時，D人總話聽唔到鬧人個種声浪(即声好奀) 師父仔同mok都係我偶像，請問我有無得救呀？

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