Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.1 ) |
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.3 ) |
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.4 ) |
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.6 ) |
¤é´Á¡G2004/12/02 06:39 ¯d¨¥ªÌ¡GkentSifu
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.7 ) |
¤é´Á¡G2004/12/02 09:59 ¯d¨¥ªÌ¡G¨È¦¶
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.8 ) |
¤é´Á¡G2004/12/03 09:36 ¯d¨¥ªÌ¡GµÓµÓªâ
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Kentsifu:
Re: ¸f¦±¨ý
Thanks once again for the expert explaination of the realtionship between ¸f¦±¨ý and the skills of singing using Western opera singing skills. However, as an amateur, I am still unclear about why most of the mainland Chinese professional Cantonese Opera (CO) singers are seen by most of the overseas CO lovers as lacking of the ¸f¦±¨ý. I do think tyhat it is due to prejudice or even discrimination against our maniland country mates. Personally, from the perspective of a junior amateur CO singer and as a "senior" CO lover, I suspect that there maybe something to do with the difference between the skills of western opera singing & our ¸f¦±. Given the fact that the mainaland Chinese CO professionals would not have the problems that amaturs would encounter as discussed in your previous response, that makes me more confused about the relationship between ¸f¦±¨ý and the skills of singing using Western opera singing skills
I would like to quote "¾Ç ¦± µ§ °O" to make my queries clearer as foillows: "¨º¬O§Ú²Ä¤@¦¸±µÄ²¡u¸f¦±¨ý¡v³oÓ¦Wµü¡A¥ç¬O§Ú¾Ç¸f¦±¥H¨Óı±o³Ì¯«¯¦³ÌÃø¥H²z¸Ñªº¦Wµü¡A¦h¦~¨Ó¡A§Ú§V¤O´M¨D¡u¸f¦±¨ý¡vªº¯u¥¿©w¸q¡A¦ý§Úµoı¨C¤Hµ¹§Úªºµª®×³£¤£¦P¡A¦Ó¥B¡AÁÙ±N¤§©M§Þ³Nn¨D¤ÎÁn©³¬üÁà²V²c¤F¡C... ²{¦b¡A©ÎªÌ§Ú¤jP¥i§@¥X·§¬A¦p¤U¡R°Ûªº¦±¥Rº¡·P±¡¡A¦³¥Í©R¡A¦Ó¥B¯à¥O¤H²£¥Í¦@»ï¡A·P°Ê¡A¦³»PºqªÌ¦Pºq¡A¦P³ß¦P´dªº½Ä°Ê¡A¬°¤§¦³¡u¸f¦±¨ý¡v¡C" (ªü ¥ß 14/9/2002)
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.9 ) |
¤é´Á¡G2004/12/03 09:39 ¯d¨¥ªÌ¡GµÓµÓªâ
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Amendment
line 3 & 4 should read as "I do not think that it is due to prejudice or even discrimination against our maniland country mates."
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Re: ¤u¤ØÃÐ ( No.10 ) |
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