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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.90 )
¤é´Á¡G2005/11/07 09:03
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.91 )
¤é´Á¡G2005/11/11 18:56
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.92 )
¤é´Á¡G2005/11/12 14:31
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.93 )
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.94 )
¤é´Á¡G2005/11/25 19:10
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.95 )
¤é´Á¡G2005/11/25 22:52
¯d¨¥ªÌ¡Gglad
¹q¶l¡Gglad@eseenet.com

Hi Everyone,

I support Gun Chee note very much. The essence of Cantonese Opera is one song with different "hong" (although it almost disappears nowadays). Think about "Wu Ba Gu" (why not coming back yet), this song sung by Sun Ma which is different from Sit Kwok Sin. Gun Chee note is very flexible..."hong" was not set.

One best essence of Gun Chee is totally depending on the singer,e.g. a song with Fan Sin Yee Wong, we can sing with long "hong" . You can sing a short hong when my voice is not very good, even I can add an interlude (gor jiu), so it gives me time to rest my voice. A very good example is Sister Fong
's Lau Toi Wu (Butterfly Lover), I had a very different version from different singers, e.g. Sister Fong, Tsui Miu Chee, Ng Kwan Lai, Ching Tak Fun etc, their interpretations are different.
Nowaday, I hate lyric sheet is full of gun chee even intro, interlude....this is very bad. In the past, music instrument players were using ears to listen, they are looking up to the singer, but now, they are facing down to the lyric sheet and see.

However, I totallly agree that "123 note" gives a very accurate time on "little song".

Glad

Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.96 )
¤é´Á¡G2006/01/01 05:33
¯d¨¥ªÌ¡GHappy Pony
¹q¶l¡Gcarolcch449@hotmail.com

I agreed with Glad so much. I think the "hong" is the particulars of
the Cantoness Opera. If every one sang the same "hong", this is not
Cantoness Opera, it is a "Sze Doi Kuk" (©ç´x)

Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.97 )
¤é´Á¡G2006/01/20 20:12
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.98 )
¤é´Á¡G2006/02/01 19:38
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.99 )
¤é´Á¡G2006/02/01 19:42
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.100 )
¤é´Á¡G2006/02/28 13:39
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Re: ¦^À³ªü¥ßªºÂ²ÃлP¤u¤Ø ( No.101 )
¤é´Á¡G2006/05/16 09:35
¯d¨¥ªÌ¡GJoey
¹q¶l¡Gjoey.cheong@gmail.com

Hello friends

I would like to seek for some assistance in sing Cantonese Opera songs especially "pong wong" like "2 fan joong pan", "jin sin joong pan" , "lau sui nan yam", "2 wong" etc. I'm very weak in these areas especially the "hong". Appreciate anyone who can help me. (ªí±¡11) (ªí±¡11)

Thks
Joey

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